- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 07:14:23 -0400
- To: public-lod@w3.org
- Message-ID: <5180F90F.4060202@openlinksw.com>
On 5/1/13 6:09 AM, Luca Matteis wrote:
> Dear Hugh,
>
> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> could feed off a subset
> of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/>, by re-skinning
>
> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> might simply lead to
> semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/>
>
>
> I like the strict separation between the two sites, I feel it should
> remain this way. We all agree that LOD belongs under the SW umbrella,
> but it's a small subset of SW, so definitely needs its own contextual
> domain. The separation needs to be made clear for newcomers, so
> mashing these two domains together isn't going to help them.
>
> I wonder if this could be our chance to really shine and show off the
> benefits behind LOD. I agree with Kingsley and Jürgen that
> linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> should be powered by the LOD
> cloud itself. I am just not sure I understand all the jargon they are
> throwing at it, but it feels like the right way.
>
> Luca
Luca,
Our jargon boils down to having a place, with access controls, that for
all intents and purposes serves as a document repository. Deposited
documents will be comprised of Linked Data oriented content. In some
cases, the repository will be able to automate metadata generation for
the deposited documents. This organic point of presence will simply
expose lots or relevant data, serendipitously.
Adding tools like MediaWiki plus its Semantic MediaWiki extensions will
help.
For instance, Hugh made reference to semanticweb.org which is driven by
MediaWiki plus the Semantic MediaWiki extensions, thus you can use the
following pattern to access Linked Data:
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/{WikiWord}.
Example:
<http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer> .
Linked Data Browser Pages for the above:
1.
http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer
2. http://bit.ly/YdsjuW -- faceted browser view driven by the data
automatically generated by Semantic MediaWiki.
That said, I anticipate an even simpler system from Steph based on WebID
which basically turns linkeddata.org into a Data Wiki.
Kingsley
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> <mailto:hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Question:
> What should be the relationship with http://semanticweb.org?
>
> It seems to me that there will always be a big overlap, certainly
> for tools, etc.
> In fact, is there anything that would go on linkeddata.org
> <http://linkeddata.org> that couldn't also usefully be on
> semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>?
> If that is true, then fragmenting the sources of information for
> newcomers and others is not a good thing to do.
> And doubling the work that a contributor has to do is not good either.
>
> If we tried to do some amalgamation:
> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> could feed off a subset
> of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>, by re-skinning
> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> might simply lead to
> semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>
> o There might be clever technology, using tagging etc to do
> something more sophisticated
>
> (I am reminded of the BBC choosing to contribute to MusicBrainz
> instead of trying to maintain its own KB.)
>
> Also I have been trying to find out who (if anyone) is currently
> able to make a little change to the http://data.semanticweb.org
> publishing - can anyone remind me where we are at the moment please?
>
> Best
> Hugh
>
> On 30 Apr 2013, at 15:39, Tom Heath <tom.heath@theodi.org
> <mailto:tom.heath@theodi.org>> wrote:
>
> > Hi Yury, Luca, all,
> >
> > There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with
> > Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the site (and
> > now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane!
> >
> > You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many times
> before,
> > I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the
> > greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed,
> though they
> > have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for how to
> > actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history shows I'm
> > too busy right now to participate regularly :(
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tom.
> >
> >
> > On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com
> <mailto:katkov.juriy@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that the
> diagram is not
> >> developing as well: it is the most common Power Point slide in
> every
> >> Semantic Web-related presentation :)
> >> -----
> >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis
> <lmatteis@gmail.com <mailto:lmatteis@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a bit
> more open &
> >>> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit
> outdated. For
> >>> example, the Research page only contains content from 2009. I
> think a
> >>> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to G+,
> Twitter and IRC
> >>> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and
> conferences around
> >>> LOD.
> >>>
> >>> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's many
> people who
> >>> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit
> overwhelming to have to
> >>> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website.
> >>>
> >>> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we can
> discuss about a
> >>> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)?
> >>>
> >>> Let me know what you think!
> >>>
> >>> Luca
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr Tom Heath
> > Data Scientist
> > Open Data Institute
> > http://theodi.org/
> >
> >
>
>
>
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