Re: Big data applications for general users based on RDF - where are they?

On 22 June 2013 20:01, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Melvin,
> I wouldn't really say that Tabulator was suitable for "general non
> technical users".
>

Fair, comment, but that's something we'd like to change soon!


> I just clicked on the link, and apart from getting endless windows with
> "Couldn't set callback for redirects: TypeError: 'undefined' is not an
> object (evaluating 'xhr.channel')"
> it is pretty opaque as to what to do next.
> Even trying to read the help.
> That's not to say it isn't useful - it I just wouldn't even expect my
> technical non-SemWeb colleagues to feel the SemWeb was for them by being
> told that was an application for non-technical people.
>

Thanks for giving it a try, sorry about that demo, it's *really* old, we
have much better working versions now.

I'll try and update the documentation in the next week or so.

The easily way to give tabulator a try right now is to check out the
firefox extension have play around:

  git clone --recursive  https://github.com/linkeddata/tabulator-firefox.git
  cd tabulator-firfox
  make

Then add it to your firefox profile(s) -- something like:

  for i in /home/melvin/.mozilla/firefox/*/extensions/ ; do echo $PWD >
tabulator@csail.mit.edu ; done

Then restart firefox and give it a try.  You should have a full read /
write linked data browser experience which you can tailor to your need.

A simple test to see if it's installed could be say:
http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl

Thanks for the feedback, I agree that apps like this need to be user
friendly and well documented.  To an extent we rely on volunteer
contributions, so any feedback or help is appreciated! :)


> Best
> Hugh
>
> On 22 Jun 2013, at 18:08, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 June 2013 18:56, Dominic Oldman <doint@oldman.me.uk> wrote:
> > So publishing linked data is easy but creating applications that make
> use of it is a completely different kettle of fish and very difficult,
> particularly in the way I described.
> >
> > My assumption is that the linked data community is keen to create these
> user applications and not consign linked data to isolated back end
> processing jobs and a tool for computer scientists. How do we as a
> community solve the semantic interoperability issue?
> >
> >
> > People have different focuses.  I would guess that most are interested
> in back ends and creating (mainly read only) data sets.
> >
> > However there are a few people working on applications, to my knowledge.
>  If you look at Tim's linked data note, he references the tabulator project:
> >
> > http://tabulator.org/
> >
> > Which is an open source project he and his team at MIT have been
> developing over the last 10 years or so.  There's about 20 or so linked
> data applications from calendars to miroblogs.  The source can be found at:
> >
> > https://github.com/linkeddata
> >
> > This is my favourite project to hack on in my spare time.  If there's
> anybody out there interested in helping to create useful linked data apps,
> would love to hear from you! :)
> >
> > Dominic
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> >
> >
> > From: Dominic Oldman <do_home@btopenworld.com>;
> > To: jyoung@oclc.org <jyoung@oclc.org>;
> > Subject: Re: RE: Big data applications for general users based on RDF -
> where are they?
> > Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 4:41:03 PM
> >
> > So publishing linked data is easy but creating applications that make
> use of it is a completely different kettle of fish and very difficult,
> particularly in the way I described.
> >
> > My assumption is that the linked data community is keen to create these
> user applications and not consign linked data to isolated back end
> processing jobs and a tool for computer scientists. How do we as a
> community solve the semantic interoperability issue?
> >
> > Dominic
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> >
> >
> > From: Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>;
> > To: doint@oldman.me.uk <doint@oldman.me.uk>; public-lod@w3 org <
> public-lod@w3.org>;
> > Subject: RE: Big data applications for general users based on RDF -
> where are they?
> > Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 4:27:31 PM
> >
> > It’s pretty easy to write an XSL stylesheet to convert “records” into
> RDF/XML, and then write a little M/R job to run the XSL against a big bulk
> of records to boil it down.
> >
> >
> > The intellectual challenge is the semantic mapping of idiomatic data
> into RDF vocabulary terms.
> >
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > From: Dominic Oldman [mailto:doint@oldman.me.uk]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 12:16 PM
> > To: public-lod@w3 org
> > Subject: Big data applications for general users based on RDF - where
> are they?
> >
> >
> >
> > Why are there so few useful linked data applications for general non
> technical users that provide functions that people need to support and
> enhance their work and which operate over large amounts of data owned by
> different organisations with a high degree of semantic interoperability and
> robustness?
> >
> > Dominic
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> >
> >
> >
>
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