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Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

From: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 00:10:02 -0600
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To: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
Cc: Michel Bauwens <michel@p2pfoundation.net>, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose@gmail.com>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, Paul Cockshott <william.cockshott@glasgow.ac.uk>
Oh well, I'll share my story on a W3C forum no less.

Model, true. Would my experiences even translate? I think you'd have to see
this from my own personal perspective. Even though I grew up in an American
home there was a lot of discourse in my family. There wasn't a lot of room
for personal expression, and my family was very religious so I was afraid
of offending God if I went against the dominating figure and/or ideology in
the family. I was also very shy growing up, and I did not have much money,
even though I came from an upper middle class family. I felt out of place
most of the time, and sometimes I had ideas that people did not seem to
understand or be interested in. I liked computers, and wanted to learn more
about them. I was always asking people doing computer stuff how to program,
even though I had a lot of trouble doing it myself. I think it was because
I struggled with algebra (and other maths), but more so algebra. I also was
a bit lost in some documentation, and may have not been fully aware of
other resources that may have helped. I was afraid of tinkering, but I
built webpages and was proud of them and I also built structures in the
woods (but that is a bit off topic). My family paid for my college. I'm
thankful for that, but it also leaves me with a feeling of responsibility
to them. I'll admit to not being in sync with things in my undergraduate
years. It looks very good if you have an internship. But at the time I made
a few mistakes perhaps. I was a bit afraid to try because the companies I
qualified for either were not doing something that interested me and/or
something that I felt reflected my beliefs, values and possibly something
else that is hard to describe. In short, perhaps passion. Over time I
realized that it would probably be wiser to accept things as is if I ever
hoped to be employed. Making the sale was difficult though. I think perhaps
people think I'm lazy, or uniformed, because I did not work (except for
academic things) in college. Or was it emotion? Ideas out of place? I was
also affected by many of the same family things growing up.

I have an interest in physics, electronics, economics, systems, etc. I
think that if I ever hope to use my education, and share what I have
learned, I need to do something amazing. I could go back to school, take on
a lot of debt, and just hope that I get enough good grades to impress
enough people (and not have them think I'd get bored when trying to get a
job). Or I could learn things on my own, participate in projects, and hope
that people receive me with open arms.

Since 2007 when I discovered Polywell nuclear fusion I've gained new
perspective on the world. I never actually built a fusion reactor, but I
did try to learn what was behind them. This motivated me to read lots of
books, and my desire to do other things to explore my uniqueness as an
individual led to even more books. GNU/Linux facilitated my graduate work,
and I can relate to it's philosophy through my many frustrations. Open
source is great, because I don't have to worry so much about my skills
wasting away. Being at the university also helps. I also don't have to
manufacture things or do anything special to have excitement about it.

But you know, how much can you actually get from someone who hasn't
experienced that much real employment? Because of that automatically people
see me in a certain way. And my views may not be necessarily realistic for
lack of experience. But whatever it is, it seems I have have found a lot of
energy and my friends seem to notice. I think about what I am learning more

But would this model help people in the real world? I feel that had it
existed it could have helped me growing up, but that is my own personal
experience. In addition to studying, a lot of my peers spent their time
drinking beer, socializing, and playing and/or watching sports. And most
seemed to have more money. Now most seem to have even more money, and spend
time on Facebook talking about things they have bought or families that
they are raising. Their educational level is hard to discern. Not many seem
to be posting things about hacking, making or things that might suggest
deep insight. But not everyone fits that.

I guess what matters is whether it will work or not, and whether it truly
will benefit others. For that both an experiment and conversation will
help. Thank you Samuel for referring me to Michael. Milton, I am not
certain what it will do yet.

I am not certain what resilience truly means. I'm definitely bothered by
the wastefulness brought upon by obsolescence of products. It would be much
better I think if we knew how they worked so we could reuse the them (I'm
saying the parts) in other things. We've had this problem at the
hackerspace. We have lots of stuff around that if we had the blueprint, it
would be much better. If we knew how this blueprint connected to other
things I personally think that would be even better.

On a separate issue. In graduate school there were people there that seemed
really lost. I mean they were doing their work, but didn't seem to have a
joy about it. There also was not a lot of organization, and it was hard to
find things.

Outside of school, there are people that I know could go to graduate school
but didn't. It was frustrating to me that I could not seem to sell them on
thinking more deeply about things, or when they said I was really smart
(but did not have the confidence or belief that they could do it
themselves). Still others just weren't there. I've seen those who weren't
there at the hackerspace. I question why, and think the world would be a
better place if this could be tapped into.

Roberto Verzola is to my mind the political economist who has done most in
studying this, see http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Commons_Economics ;
Wolfgang Hoeschele is planning an ambitious database based on a Needs,
Organisational REsources, (I forgot what the A stands for)

I'm  sure that the proposed modelling effort will contribute to this field;
if you are ideologically open, you may also want to talk with people like
Paul Cockshott and the people of the Center for Transition Science at UNAM
in Mexico City; who are very good at econometric modelling and interested
in a cybernetic planning revival, "

I still have to think more about this. I was reading over it a bit today.

I might have seen something about this today. Someone was talking about how
technologies were allowing us (or could? ) to become more mobile, and that
people really didn't have to be co located. I don't remember what
technologies that they were referring.

"Peer to peer processes in addition should be defined as geography
independent, historically nomads, hunter gatherers and technomads in the
modern age all show this to be true."

I hope to write soon.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Brent Shambaugh

> I'm feeling that this is shaped by my own personal experience? I'm
> willing, but should I risk putting it out there?
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