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Re: Linked Data Dogfood circa. 2013

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:15:02 +0100
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhJ_YxOqB6wgRZKMLNi14F1C=49pkuBpd-6cXQJ=3BPBhg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Giovanni Tummarello <giovanni.tummarello@deri.org>
Cc: William Waites <ww@styx.org>, Linking Open Data <public-lod@w3.org>
On 4 January 2013 22:02, Giovanni Tummarello
<giovanni.tummarello@deri.org>wrote:

> One might just simply stay silent and move along, but i take a few
> seconds to restate the obvious.
>
> It is a fact that Linked data as " publish some stuff and they will
> come, both new publishers and consumers" has failed.
>
> The idea of putting some "extra energy" would simply be useless per se
> BUT it becomes  wrong when one tries to involve others e.g. gullible
> newcomers,  fresh ph.d students who trust that "hey if my ph.d advisor
> made a career out of it, and EU gave him so much money it must be real
> right?"
>
> IAs community of people who claim to have something to do with
> research (and not a cult) every once in a while is learn from the
> above lesson and devise NEW methods and strategies. In other words,
> move ahead in a smart way.
>
> I am by no mean trowing all away.
>
> * publishing structured data on the web is already a *huge thing* with
> schema.org and the rest. Why? because of the clear incentive SEO.
> * RDF is a great model for heterogeneous data integration and i think
> it will explode in (certain) enterprises (knowledge intensive)
>
> What we're seeking here is more advanced, flexible uses of structured
> data published, e.g. by smart clients, that do useful things for
> people.
> The key is to show these clients, these useful things. What other
> (realistic) incentive can we create that make people publish data? how
> would a real "linked data client" work and provide benefit to a real
> world, non academic example class of users (if not all?) .
>

What kind of "useful" things would you like to see?

I'm starting to dogfood using linked data more and more, this year could be
the year I switch completely.


>
> my wish for 2013 about linked data is that the discussion focuses on
> this. With people concentrated on the "full circle, round trip"
> experience, with incentives for all (and how to start the virtuous
> circle).
>
> Gio
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, William Waites <ww@styx.org> wrote:
> > hmmm.... not so tasty:
> >
> >     warning: array_keys() [function.array-keys]: The first argument
> should
> >     be an array in
> >     /var/www/drupal-6.22/sites/all/modules/dogfood/dogfood.module on
> >     line 1807.
> >
> > digging deeper:
> >
> >     The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream
> server.
> >     The proxy server could not handle the request POST /sparql.
> >
> >     Reason: DNS lookup failure for: data.semanticweb.org
> >
> >     Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.2 PHP/5.2.0-8+etch16
> mod_ssl/2.2.3
> >     OpenSSL/0.9.8c Server at data.semanticweb.org Port 80
> >
> > (appears to be a reverse proxy at data.semanticweb.org)
> >
> > I think I prefer people food...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -w
> >
> >
>
>
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