Re: WebID Frustration

Thanks Henry.
Actually, I tried both of those before posting.

On 6 Aug 2013, at 22:08, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
 wrote:

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> On 6 Aug 2013, at 22:17, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
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>> *Conclusion*
>> So, as a mac user, the pages I found most useful were
>> https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/posts/62pFBxAm7Ev
>> to generate the cert
>> and
>> https://webid.turnguard.com/WebIDTestServer/debug
>> to check I had it right.
>> Also, http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebID told me what the RDF should look like.
>> 
>> It still seems to me that this is not a technology that is very useable - it really shouldn't have taken so many messages to help me!
>> I was thinking of setting up for my users to use WebID on a little social networking site I have, but I think I will give it a miss for the moment!
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> Hugh, if you use an end user directed service such as https://my-profile.eu you can get a certificate in one click.
> If you choose to use the hard way, by doing everything by hand then things get complicated. But then you could argue
> that HTTP is complicated too, if you tried to write one by hand.
As I said, what I don't want is yet another account to think about, and I knew that from the start.
Just where does this site have a link that will help me?
I really, really didn't want to do it the hard way - that is why I found these sites before posting.
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> The video on https://webid.info/ shows just how simple things can be.
(I assume you don't mean https://webid.info/ which is refusing connections, you mean http://webid.info/ .)
And when I tried to view the video, it sat there in my browser, saying "loading", so I gave up.
Actually, I now see that it could have played; but then it is a 10 minute video, which is too long to seem what I wanted (I confess to having an aversion videos as explanations - they are far harder to scan back in).
Now I can see it, I have to say it doesn't start by giving me anything like what I was after - it starts to explain what the problem is that is being solved - I really don't care about that - all I want is a WebID - the easy way.
It is an interesting video, but pretty far from what I was after.
As Norman says, it starts off with Alice and Bob, which I know means it is telling me stuff I don't need to know, and will probably be at the wrong level.
We have mention of DNS, namespaces, hashtag URLs, TLS, X509, X500, LDAP, …
Finally we get to "Creating a certificate".
I see a web page with a "create certificate" button, but can't see the URL.
It is Clerezza on bbl fish, I think, but I don't know how I would get there to make my certificate easily.
It says that I should do it on the home page, but I confess that I am still at a loss as to where I can find it.

Sorry if this sounds critical, but I don't think the video is what I need, and feel obliged to explain why.

Best
Hugh
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> Henry
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> Social Web Architect
> http://bblfish.net/
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