Re: SPARQL, philosophy n'stuff..

On 4/18/13 10:31 AM, Barry Norton wrote:
>
> "REST is simpler than SPARQL"
>
> I have difficulty taking you seriously: SPARQL Graph Store Protocol is 
> a great deal simpler and more RESTful than what you propose and the 
> difference between that and something actually RESTful is complicated.
>
> Sorry, I have every sympathy for what Hugh said, but if you jump into 
> a new thread title and make such statements you're going to provoke a 
> response.

+1

Kingsley
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> On 18/04/2013 15:26, Luca Matteis wrote:
>> Guys, it's also about making things simpler. Sure SPARQL works and 
>> it's a great things to have. But we (Semantic Web community) should 
>> thrive for simplicity. And for this matter REST is simpler than 
>> SPARQL - that's just the way it is.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org 
>> <mailto:distobj@acm.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Claus Stadler
>>     <cstadler@informatik.uni-leipzig.de
>>     <mailto:cstadler@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>> wrote:
>>     > For example:
>>     > "Show me projects, corresponding partners in France and their
>>     amount of
>>     > funding". Whats missing in SemMap is just adding UI elements
>>     that add
>>     > sorting and aggregation to the generated SPARQL query. (Yes,
>>     Freebase can do
>>     > that too).
>>     >
>>     > Now show me how you would do that with a REST API ;)
>>
>>     GET /projects?partners=fr&extrafields=funding HTTP/1.0
>>
>>     along with a form and supporting declarative metadata describing the
>>     relationship between the two pages in play (the form and the result
>>     page from submitting the form).
>>
>>     More generally, I think an old blog post of mine about REST and
>>     SPARQL
>>     is still bang-on about why we haven't, and won't ever, see SPARQL
>>     endpoints being anything other than a niche offered either by those
>>     who can afford to run such a service, or published privately to
>>     partners;
>>
>>     http://www.markbaker.ca/blog/2006/08/sparql-useful-but-not-a-game-changer/
>>
>>     The economics of publication are just drastically different between
>>     exposing a RESTful interface, and exposing a query language.
>>
>>     Mark.
>>
>>
>


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