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Re: Decommissioning a linked data site

From: Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock@okfn.org>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:02:59 +0100
Message-ID: <CAEvtuKqGH31PPwVckkPGdjLCOMu5OD4sWC__mYzwwW51HaNMmg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
Cc: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, "public-lod@w3.org community" <public-lod@w3.org>
On 30 May 2012 11:57, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org> wrote:
> Seems to me that the crucial bit of information that the data
> which is served by your site now can be got much better by
> going th LoC site woul dbe nice to have in machine readable
> form.
> One idea is *leaving* it in CKAN but mark it
> as historical so it can be a place o make the pointer the
> the superceding point.  The entry could be a sort of rallying

I'm +1 on this. And think it interesting to think about how to handle
this nicely.

> point for people who were interested in the data.
> In a way, the CKAN entry has an added value once you are gone.
> I don't know if CKAN has that facility.

You can definitely keep the dataset entry on CKAN there. We don't have
it now but one could introduce a special state of "archived" which
would then mean that the entry was kept but clearly marked as


> For total extra kudos, provide query rewriting rules
> from yours site to LoC data, linked so that you can write a program
> to start with a sparql query which fails
> and figures out from metadata how to turn it into one which works!
> Tim
> On 2012-05 -29, at 16:47, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>> Dear Bradley,
>> The second part of your plan reminds me of my recent question on "moving" a dataset
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2012Apr/0123.html
>> The object moved (a thesaurus) is quite the same, as the cause for the "moving": in both cases an official version has arisen to replace a first prototype.
>> We have tried to create a redirection, using a 301 code. But I guess that if we had decided to shut done our server altogether, we would have opted for the same 410 code as you!
>> and maybe we'll do, one day...
>> Cheers,
>> Antoine
>>> Back in 2009, as an experiment in working with RDFa and linked data, I created t4gm.info <http://t4gm.info>. It is based solely on US Library of Congress library linked data (specifically, the Thesaurus for Graphical Materials), which at the time I created the site didn't have any equivalently accessible linked data. That has long since been rectified by the LoC. So t4gm.info <http://t4gm.info> is at best redundant and at worst potentially confusing.
>>> So what I want to do is shut the site down. But there doesn't seem to be much if any best practice around doing that, especially when the site by virtue of its listing with CKAN is part of the LOD Cloud diagram. What I want to do is 1) delist it from CKAN, and then 2) shut the site down, perhaps replacing it with a simple web service returning a 410 status code per RFC 2616. I assume it will be removed from the LOD cloud diagram when that is next updated from the CKAN data.
>>> Anyone have any suggestions beyond that? Also, if anyone from CKAN is reading this, I could also use some guidance on how deletion of records is accomplished through the online interface. - cheers, BPA
>>> Bradley P. Allen
>>> http://bradleypallen.org

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