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Re: Qwiki was: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

From: adasal <adam.saltiel@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:05:06 +0100
Message-ID: <CANJ1O4q9cEBi6mYScw9_B-G7CMgbrfgoDAjpyOfQeFj11S=PdQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Cc: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Eric Franzon <eric@semanticweb.com>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>, "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
I think I see the same situation everyone else does.
Huge corporate chasing (as ever) share price.
Closed system which may or may not have an API.
Sweeping the mind of 'the many'.
Meanwhile there are academics, open committees and some small businesses
pursuing a more particular vision.
What value a vision?
Do visions gets squashed, homogenised, lost, suppressed?
The interesting thing about the semantic web is that it is about identity
in its various forms (types). It is highly political.

Adam

On 18 May 2012 10:03, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:

> By the way, there are some other projects like http://www.qwiki.com/ that
> clearly do work
> semantically, and offer some of the features touted by google.
>
> Henry
>
> On 18 May 2012, at 09:36, Ivan Herman wrote:
>
> >
> > On May 18, 2012, at 06:51 , Eric Franzon wrote:
> >
> >> Ivan,
> >>
> >> Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography
> at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able
> to see GKG rich data visualizations, while others in the US (myself
> included -- also in California) and Europe could not.
> >>
> >> I spoke to a Google representative this afternoon who confirmed the
> gradual roll-out, but would not (or could not) discuss the algorithm. He
> did hint that people with Google accounts will be first to see the
> enhancements.
> >
> > Hm. Ok, although I do have a google account...
> >
> > Anyway, no big deal. There is time to do this, but what this shows is
> that running an experiment now may be premature.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > ivan
> >
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> --Eric
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On May 17, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Kingsley,
> >>>
> >>> the problem is that, as usual, the GKG is a US centric thing for now,
> At least here in the Netherlands it does not seem to work yet.
> >>>
> >>> (I guess I could set up a proxy to my account in MIT, and reconfigure
> my browsers to work that way, but that is too much trouble...)
> >>>
> >>> :-(
> >>>
> >>> Ivan
> >>> ---
> >>> Ivan Herman
> >>> Tel:+31 641044153
> >>> http://www.ivan-herman.net
> >>>
> >>> (Written on mobile, sorry for brevity and misspellings...)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 17 May 2012, at 22:38, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a theory (at this point) that Google has used profile
> analytics (not a bad thing per se.) to drive the rollout of their new
> Knowledge Graph service. I've dropped a post on G+ with links to a Google
> Drive folder with screenshots that feed my current theory about profile
> driven rollout. Basically, you have two users (distinct profiles) issuing
> the same query, with different results.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am interested in finding out how many of you actually see the new
> Knowledge Graph sidebar.
> >>>>
> >>>> Links:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. http://goo.gl/dZgxf -- G+ post about my theory
> >>>> 2. http://goo.gl/6eemj -- Shared Google Drive Folder .
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Kingsley Idehen
> >>>> Founder&  CEO
> >>>> OpenLink Software
> >>>> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> >>>> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> >>>> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
> >>>> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about
> >>>> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ----
> > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
> > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> > mobile: +31-641044153
> > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Social Web Architect
> http://bblfish.net/
>
>
>
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