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Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

From: Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@netestate.de>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:32:45 +0200
To: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
Cc: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com>, public-lod community <public-lod@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20120517063244.GA9388@netestate.de>

Hello Bernard,

I really hope they have delivered something people (outside this community)
will find useful. Otherwise you will perhaps be happy that they tried to
take all the credit. As you said, it's not completely news and the expectations
are great.

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:40:29AM +0200, Bernard Vatant wrote:
> ... To put it in a longer way.
> 
> Yes this is great news, although it's not completely news, we had quite a
> few hints of it by Google in the past months.
> 
> But what is just unfair is Google presenting this as if they had invented
> it. Apart from a quick allusion to DBpedia and Freebase, no mention of the
> collective and converging efforts of so many libraries, museums,
> governments, research centers, standard bodies, associations and
> institutions, thousands of wikipedians, topic mappers, classifiers,
> documentalists ... (apologies to those I forget, too many of them) ... who
> have dedicated countless days and nights to build structured data and put
> them on the Web. For those who do not know this background story, Google
> will show off as the Only One able to organize and make sense of the messy
> Web. I wish they were able to acknowledge at least that they are leveraging
> all this work.
> Neither have they built the core data, nor invented the underlying
> concepts. They just bring more power and visibility.
> 
> Bernard
> 
> 2012/5/17 David Wood <david@3roundstones.com>
> 
> > On May 16, 2012, at 17:45, Bernard Vatant wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to all who had this ground ploughed and sown patiently since those
> > dark ages where Google was all but an idea.
> > Now the grain is ripe and it's a great time for them to harvest ... hope
> > we are left with some crumbs to pick up as a reward of our efforts :)
> >
> >
> > Hmm, yes.  Will SemWeb researchers feel about Google's Knowledge Graph the
> > way hypertext researchers feel about the Web? I hope not.
> >
> > Still, Kingsley is right, too.  We are certainly busier than we have ever
> > been, with no clear end in sight.  That's positive.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > Bernard
> >
> > 2012/5/16 Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> >
> >> On 5/16/12 4:02 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> >>
> >>> Big thumbs up (at least in principle) from google on linked data
> >>>
> >>> http://googleblog.blogspot.de/**2012/05/introducing-knowledge-**
> >>> graph-things-not.html<http://googleblog.blogspot.de/2012/05/introducing-knowledge-graph-things-not.html>
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1000...
> >>
> >> It's getting real interesting. Google and Facebook as massive Linked Data
> >> Spaces, awesome!
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Kingsley Idehen
> >> Founder&  CEO
> >> OpenLink Software
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> 
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> *Bernard Vatant
> *
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