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From: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:10:12 +0000
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
CC: public-lod community <public-lod@w3.org>
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Thanks Melvin,
I appreciate the trouble you took to write the blog, and it describes an interesting thing.
But I think it doesn't really really show much that would excite a typical user of Facebook (yet?).

By the way, I do appreciate the benefits of Linked Data.

Now that Dam (sic*) Brickley has told me his Facebook ID, and I sameAs'ed it to one of his others, such as his foaf, RKBExplorer can happily tell you all about the Facebook person:
http://www.rkbexplorer.com/explorer/#display=person-{http://graph.facebook.com/danbri}
or
http://www.rkbexplorer.com/network/?uri=http://graph.facebook.com/danbri&type=person-person&format=foafknowsn3

(I'm afraid the RKB server is slow at the moment, as I am hammering it on something else.
But in a little while it would have used any Facebook friendships he publishes to improve knowledge of related stuff.
Except there aren't any.)

And before you ask, all the Unknown/Withhelds come from semantic web.org<http://web.org>, which is not currently delivering the labels, and the URIs were not previously fetched to do coref to find an equivalent label from another source.
This really is a Linked Data app. :-)

And yes, it is only one line of turtle:- an owl:sameAs.
Do you want to send me your FB ID? :-)

Best
Hugh

*It currently picks Dam, as that is what one of the records in the ACM Digital Library calls him, and that is within the tolerance for coreffing.
Dam and I rather like that :-)

On 28 Mar 2012, at 16:25, Melvin Carvalho wrote:



On 28 March 2012 15:28, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
I can't find any apps (other than mine) that actually use this.

Searching:
Sindice:
http://sindice.com/search?q=http://graph.facebook.com
40 (forty) results
Bing:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22http://graph.facebook.com/%22
8400 results

I don't think this activity has actually set the world alight yet - people are quite excited from what you call the Structured Data point of view, but little or no Linked Data.
And it has been around for a little while now.
And my (unproven) hypothesis is that Sindice would be finding these links all over the place if Facebook had been encouraged to do it differently.

I'm not knocking it - you are right - it is really great they have done it.
But I think we could have helped them do it better.

I wanted to give you a demo of some of the things we've been working on, but I couldnt quite work out how to insert images to gmail.

I've blogged about it here:

http://www.w3.org/community/rww/2012/03/28/using-tabulator-to-link-to-facebook-in-chrome/

Hope that helps! :)


Cheers
Hugh

On 28 Mar 2012, at 14:00, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>
> Hugh,
>
> Really short story: Facebook has delivered you enough structured data for you to wonder into higher Linked Data realms if you choose. Half bread is better than none. Facebook has contributed something like 850 million+ profiles in structured data form to the Web, isn't that awesome? Doesn't that simplify the entire journey towards of a Web of semantically rich relations that ultimately aids:
>
> 1. Findability
> 2. Disparate Data Access & Integration -- basically data virtualization
> 3. Introduction and Exploitation of  Intensional Data Management -- basically what's also referred to as Closed World vs Open World database technology
> 4. Flexible Data Representation where schema bindings are late and loose.
>
> As I told you last week, Linked Data has already exploded beyond the point of critical mass. Stalled it hasn't :-)
>
> Links:
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> 1. MailScanner has detected definite fraud in the website at "goo.gl". Do not trust this website: MailScanner has detected definite fraud in the website at "goo.gl". Do not trust this website: http://goo.gl/y7Gq4 -- an pretty old post titled: What Facebook Can Teach Us about Bootstrapping Linked Data at InterWeb Scales .
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Hugh Glaser,
            Web and Internet Science
            Electronics and Computer Science,
            University of Southampton,
            Southampton SO17 1BJ
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--
Hugh Glaser,
             Web and Internet Science
             Electronics and Computer Science,
             University of Southampton,
             Southampton SO17 1BJ
Work: +44 23 8059 3670, Fax: +44 23 8059 3045
Mobile: +44 75 9533 4155 , Home: +44 23 8061 5652
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~hg/
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