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Re: Can we create better links by playing games?

From: Oscar Corcho <ocorcho@fi.upm.es>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:19:29 +0200
To: Elena Simperl <elena.simperl@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>, Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
CC: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, Leigh Dodds <leigh@ldodds.com>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CC0817B5.4A6C5%ocorcho@fi.upm.es>
Sorry that I have not been able to follow this thread, but now that Elena
pointed out to some work that we have been doing in the validation of
geographical links, I can share my view.

In my opinion it is not always easy to generate a game with a purpose that
actually engages people in some of these tasks, and the difficulty lies
exactly in finding good games for that. I was trying the ones sent by Jens
but could not find easily what to do, but this doesn't mean anything else
than given how busy I was when checking I had not enough time to spend on
trying to understand well the game (I am probably not the person that this
type of game is addressing).

In the meantime, anyway, I think that using some form of "human computation"
is still something that can be applied (we are doing it successfully for our
link validation tasks for linked geographical data, as pointed by Elena here
http://oegdev.dia.fi.upm.es:8080/sameAs/, and people are very good at
checking those things).

Oscar

PS: Again, sorry for having missed the thread and not being able to read
through it quickly given the high traffic that it has generated. I hope not
to have repeated something that was already said, or not to open many other
threads ;-)

-- 

Oscar Corcho
Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
Facultad de Informática
Campus de Montegancedo s/n
Boadilla del Monte-28660 Madrid, España
Tel. (+34) 91 336 66 05
Fax  (+34) 91 352 48 19

De:  Elena Simperl <elena.simperl@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Fecha:  miércoles 20 de junio de 2012 17:49
Para:  Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
CC:  Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, Leigh Dodds
<leigh@ldodds.com>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>,
"public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, Oscar Corcho <ocorcho@fi.upm.es>
Asunto:  Re: Can we create better links by playing games?
Nuevo envío de:  <public-lod@w3.org>
Fecha de nuevo envío:  Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:50:10 +0000

    
 Am 20.06.2012 17:10, schrieb Gannon Dick:
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> I think the "games" are very helpful for geo classification.  Meta data links
> are a monte carlo integration.  The further you step back to include more
> identifiers the less discriminating the identifiers become, and some may be
> ignored, or replaced with an unlinked generic substitution.  The worldview of
> a Football Fan and a Government Policy Wonk don't begin the same, but they can
> end with the same organization.
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> http://www.rustprivacy.org/2012/cctld/psp/
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> I really liked the SmartCities idea.
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 There is also work done by UPM in Madrid on validating links between
geospatial data sets using human computation
 
 http://oegdev.dia.fi.upm.es:8080/sameAs/ (just pick a random user id, and a
data set).
 
 
 
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>  From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
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>  To: Leigh Dodds <leigh@ldodds.com> <mailto:leigh@ldodds.com>
>  Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>
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>  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:51 AM
>  Subject: Re: Can we create better links by playing games?
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> On 20 June 2012 15:46, Leigh Dodds <leigh@ldodds.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Melvin Carvalho
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>>>  > On 20 June 2012 15:11, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
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>>>>  >> On 6/19/12 3:23 PM, Martin Hepp wrote:
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>>>>>  >>> [1] Games with a Purpose for the Semantic Web, IEEE Intelligent
>>>>> Systems,
>>>>>  >>> Vol. 23, No. 3, pp. 50-60, May/June 2008.
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>>>>  >> Do the games at: http://ontogame.sti2.at/games/, still work? The more
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>>>>  >> quality oriented games the better re. LOD and the Semantic Web in
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>>>>  >> Others: Are there any other games out there?
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>>>  > iand is working on a game:
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>>>  > http://blog.iandavis.com/2012/05/21/wolfie/
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>>  Is that relevant? :)
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>  I guess I was reaching a bit there :)
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>  I think it's just a fun project at the moment.  But you never know how things
> will develop, look at the explosion of minecraft.  Also written by one of the
> top linked data experts in the world ... so you can only hope! :)
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>  One thing that I think could be really good is if inked geo browser (also
> aksw) were somehow gamified.
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Dr. Elena Simperl
Assistant Professor
Karlsruhe Institute of Technology
t: +49 721 608 45778
m: +49 1520 1600994
e: elena.simperl@kit.edu
 
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