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Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] SOPA, Wikipedia, and dbpedia

From: Eric Franzon <eric@semanticweb.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:16:14 -0800
Message-ID: <CAHcHjrqSqj8e0-fZGNvsBwKVRyeSxR2RhQAzPk95nvkqBA3Hug@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: Bryan Burgers <bryan.burgers@gmail.com>, Jörn Hees <j_hees@cs.uni-kl.de>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, semantic-web@w3.org, dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net
Whatever is decided here, I offer SemanticWeb.com as a platform for
announcing a blackout as well as any supporting statements anyone wants to
put forth. I will continue to follow this thread, but if anyone wishes to
reach out to me privately, please feel free: eric@semanticweb.com.

Cheers,
--Eric

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>wrote:

> On 1/17/12 10:38 AM, Bryan Burgers wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Kingsley Idehen<kidehen@openlinksw.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On 1/17/12 10:01 AM, Jörn Hees wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 17. Jan. 2012, at 15:08, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/17/12 8:39 AM, Mischa Tuffield wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Following on from the news that the English Wikipedia is going dark in
>>>>>> opposition to the SOPA/PIPA tomorrow (2012-01-18) given the activity
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> US [1], I wonder whether we as the Semantic Web Community feel like we
>>>>>> should turn around and turn off dbpedia? What do people think?
>>>>>> Wouldn't that
>>>>>> be a nice show of support to Wikipedia, dbpedia's parent project, I
>>>>>> think so
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Note that en.wikipedia.org won't be "turned off", they will have a
>>>> black
>>>> click through page before being able to access articles.
>>>> While ok (for me) for pages intended for humans, i don't know if it's
>>>> wise
>>>> to do the same for machine accessible data.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In the case of DBpedia that means: /page/ links can do similar.
>>>
>>> As for the machine vs human matter, SOPA doesn't make any distinction.
>>> Same
>>> really applies to Linked Data, its all about representation formats for
>>> structured data via description oriented directed graphs.
>>>
>>>
>>> The machines will get confused.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's part of the point.
>>>
>> Except that most machines don't understand SOPA, and won't call their
>> representatives. Although SOPA (and PIPA) affect machines, too, it's
>> the humans that can affect whether the legislation passes. So it's all
>> about informing humans with the hope that they'll take action.
>>
>
> The machines are driven by Humans. There's always a human at the end of
> the value chain.
>
>>
>> When Wikipedia goes black, there will be information on WHY it has
>> gone black, and what SOPA means to internet users.
>>
> Fine, and that can also make its way, via Linked Data mesh to the human at
> the end of the value chain.
>
>
>> If the data portion of DBPedia goes black, there will be no
>> information on WHY it has gone black and there will be no mention of
>> SOPA, so there will be no action taken on the part of humans.
>>
>
> Of course not, it might even be a nice Linked Data implications showcase.
>
> Yes,
>> humans eventually see the data that the machines get from DBPedia, but
>> if the data portion of DBPedia goes black, the applications that use
>> it as a datasource will probably just say DBPedia is down, or that
>> data is unavailable; no mention will be made about SOPA.
>>
>
> Not if done right. The humans at the end of the value chain will know why
> :-)
>
> Kingsley
>
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>
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>
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