Re: Common RDF Vocabulary Labels Vocabulary

Hi Daniel,

That's an interesting idea.  Perhaps soundex would be easy and useful, too.

Regards,
Dave




On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:59, Daniel Schwabe wrote:

> Dear all,
> I'm glad this discussion has started . To me it points in the same direction I already mentioned in another thread, the need for an entirely separate vocabulary to talk about *presentation* aspects of RDF content.
> For example, a natural (at least in my view) extension to this proposed vocabulary, besides the ones Hugh is pointing to, could be to add a "media type dimension", so one could have alternative presentations depending on the "media" (vocal is an obvious one, but not the only).
> 
> Cheers
> D
> 
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 09:54  - 06/06/11, Hugh Glaser wrote:
> 
>> That's a great resource building up.
>> Well done starting it.
>> 
>> We do need to think a little about the sociology of this, I'm afraid.
>> You say "where they were not provided by their vocabulary's author".
>> But (first example I looked at) http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/skos.html has
>> <rdf:Description rdf:about="#closeMatch">
>>   <rdfs:label xml:lang="en">has close match</rdfs:label>
>> so labels are already there (skos:prefLabel is a sub-property of rdfs:label).
>> Actually, you have something different:
>> skos:closeMatch skos:prefLabel "close match" ; 
>> 
>> So what is the ecosystem here?
>> Is it your baby that you play with when the kids are busy? :-)
>> Is this an independent, community, activity?
>> If so, should agreed stuff be reflected back into the ontologies?
>> Is it a harvesting and aggregation activity?
>> 
>> Sorry if this sounds negative - it isn't.
>> Not having labels like this has been the bane of my life on RKBExplorer for many years.
>> I have 1000 hand-written lines of fresnel RDF, with things like:
>> # Web address format                                    
>> :webAddressFmt a        f:Format ;                      
>>                                       f:group :aktGroup ;
>>                                       f:propertyFormatDomain akt:has-web-address ;
>>                                       f:propertyFormatDomain swrc:url ;
>>                                       f:propertyFormatDomain akt:has-URL ;
>>                                       f:propertyFormatDomain foaf:page ;
>>                                       f:propertyFormatDomain foaf:homepage ; 
>>                                       f:propertyFormatDomain jisc:homepage ;
>>                                       f:propertyFormatDomain dc:relation ;
>>                                       f:value f:externalLink ;
>>                                       f:label "Web Address:"^^xsd:string .
>> so I feel the pain that must have prompted you to do this!
>> In fact, I used to hope that people would publish fresnel lens with their ontologies.
>> In fact adding lenses of some description to your document would be good?
>> 
>> If we are really going for it, then you may decide to have even more labels than you have, especially if you want to embrace languages remote from the latin world.
>> So for skos:closeMatch to be exhaustive, so that I can really put stuff in natural language, you might want;
>> label:prefix "Close match"
>> label:prefix-plural "Close matches"
>> label:infix-sing-sing "has a close match"
>> label:infix-sing-plur "has close matches"
>> label:infix-plur-sing "have a close match"
>> label:infix-plur-plur "have close matches"
>> label:infix-inverse-sing-sing "is a close match of"
>> label:infix-inverse-sing-plur "is a close match of"
>> label:infix-inverse-plur-sing "are close matches of"
>> label:infix-inverse-plur-plur "are close matches of"
>> 
>> I can't think of a postfix context, but maybe someone needs it?
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 10:42, Christopher Gutteridge wrote:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> I would go further and suggest that you cut and paste in the property & class definitions to provide a single file which can be translated to enable core parts of the semweb in other languages.
>>> 
>>> It's quite easy for a volunteer to just translate all the xml:lang="en" bits into other languages.
>>> 
>>> Maybe I'll do a "en-gb". "Centre", "Organisation", "Pavement" etc. *grin*
>> Not sure about the grin :-)
>> And if it is en-us, I think it should be
>> ad:postalCode skos:prefLabel "zip code" .
>> rather than
>> ad:postalCode skos:prefLabel "postal code" .
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Hugh
>>> 
>>> On 06/06/11 09:01, Antoine Zimmermann wrote:
>>>> May I suggest that you add language tags, and possibly later extend this vocab with other languages? I can even provide the terms in French.
>>>> 
>>>> Le 06/06/2011 00:36, David Wood a écrit :
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to announce the availability of a small, but hopefully useful, vocabulary consisting of singular, plural and inverse singular human-readable labels for some common RDF vocabularies.  The idea is to provide a way for user interfaces to look up labels for RDF classes and properties where they were not provided by their vocabulary's author.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Common RDF Vocabulary Labels Vocabulary is available via content negotiation at:
>>>>> http://purl.org/net/prototypo/labels
>>>>> 
>>>>> The HTML description needs some work, but I need to play with my kids now.  The Turtle is probably the easiest version to look at for the moment:
>>>>> http://purl.org/net/prototypo/labels-20110603.ttl
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have fun and please tell me if I should add any other labels.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
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