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Re: Improving Organization of Govt. based Linked Data Projects

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:47:30 -0400
Message-ID: <4BA669C2.6070509@openlinksw.com>
To: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
CC: Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>
Hugh Glaser wrote:
>
> On 21/03/2010 18:10, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hugh Glaser wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Kingsley, I am right with you - finding stuff is hard.
>>> But I do think we could make it easier for all of us.
>>> Just the esw wiki alone requires me to put every set I create into a bunch of
>>> place, for example, at least:
>>> * [[http://esw.w3.org/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData/DataSets
>>> DataSets]]
>>> * [[http://esw.w3.org/DataSetRDFDumps RDF Dumps]]
>>> * [[http://esw.w3.org/SparqlEndpoints SPARQL endpoints]]
>>> * 
>>> [[http://esw.w3.org/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData/DataSets/Lin
>>> kStatistics Link Statistics]]
>>>
>>>
>>> In the end, I just donšt manage it, partially because it entails editing a
>>> large wiki page for most (although the move to MW must be an great
>>> improvement).
>>>
>>> So if I find the whole thing laborious.
>>> Telling people to go and edit multiple pages is not really customer oriented
>>> (I view the publishers as our customers in the Linked Data world).
>>>   
>>>       
>> I agree, so what about del.icio.us bookmarks?
>>     
> True, it's a "bit", however it only gives a URI and some tags, but providing
> the metadata is more complicated.
>   
For me, it gives me URLs that feed my RDFizer i.e., Virtuoso Sponger (as 
demonstrated via the URIBurner instance). Anything in Del.cio.us ends up 
in the Web of Linked Data cloud. All you need is a bookmarklet, a 
del.icio.us link visit, and the rest is done. Of course fidelity of 
description is an item of perpetual improvement, but that's much easier 
once you have Generic HTTP URIs exposed from a Web accessible Linked 
Data Space.
> And it would be yet another place to put and find dataset metadata.
>   
>>> Does anyone want to step up to the plate and do a swish repository for this
>>> data, with easy entry (including RESTful) and publishing as html, Linked
>>> Data, json etc. using voiD, etc?
>>>   
>>>       
>> Even better, I am sure this can be assembled in bits, as Melvin has
>> already demonstrated :-)
>>     
> Actually, what Melvin demonstrated was neat, but only about re-publishing
> and consuming.
> The trouble with "bits" is that there are usually quite a few of them, and
> so they (such as delicious) will only increase the number of places with
> which a dataset publisher needs to interact.
>
> The esw pages are exactly the sort of structured data that we claim to be
> able to deal with - surely someone has the tools and the time to deploy them
> (!) to do a proper data management of this metadata around RDF?
>
> Maybe a PG wants to use it as a use case for Linked Data research?
> I'm sure the Sindice team has much of the data already in RDF?
>   
We also have most of the data in RDF too :-)

The inconsistencies I am concerned about effect all ecosystem players.

Thus, we ultimately comeback to a DBpedia template for LOGD, that 
clearly identifies:

1. RDF Data Set URLs
2. SPARQL Endpoints
3. Linked Data URIs where publishing of resolvable Web Scale Identifiers 
has occurred.

The items above are equally valuable and distinct within the Linked Data 
ecosystem.


Kingsley
> Best
> Hugh
>   
>> Kingsley
>>     
>>> Best
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On 20/03/2010 20:18, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I continue to struggle with easy discovery of Government oriented Linked
>>>> Data (UK and U.S. are examples). Basically, a long time ago, we
>>>> established some core principles for Linked Open Data published to the
>>>> Web. The components where broken down as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Publish RDF Data Set archive URLs to a well known location --
>>>> http://esw.w3.org/DataSetRDFDumps
>>>> 2. Publish SPARQL Endpoints -- e.g., <http://esw.w3.org/SparqlEndpoints>
>>>> 3. Publish Linked Data -- an home page or deeply linked URI will do.
>>>>
>>>> DBpedia still provides a very nice template for the above.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, most of the Govt oriented Linked Data projects haven't
>>>> quite adopted the scheme above thereby making the process of discovering
>>>> items 1-3 quite tedious.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions:
>>>>
>>>> I think we can tackle this problem by doing the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Use the moniker Linked Open Govt Data (LOGD) for all Govt. oriented
>>>> Linked Data projects
>>>> 2. Use #hashtag #logd on Twitter and "logd" for tagging on del.cio.us --
>>>> one data is on del.icio.us or Twitter, its basically part of LOD via
>>>> RDFizers etc..
>>>>
>>>> So Far I have:
>>>>
>>>> 1. http://delicious.com/kidehen/logd  -- del.icio.us tag
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>
>
>   


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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	      
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software     
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Received on Sunday, 21 March 2010 18:48:01 UTC

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