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Re: Differing definitions

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:51:05 -0500
Message-ID: <4D0292B9.3050007@openlinksw.com>
To: Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@gmail.com>
CC: dmbarber@gmail.com, public-lod@w3.org
On 12/10/10 11:26 AM, Adrian Walker wrote:
> Hi Kingsley,
>
> You wrote....
>
> /Do you have a service the emits machine readable structured data? 
> Naturally, any of the many RDF formats would do etc../
>
> The service accepts http from Java clients and emits simple XML [1,2]
> .
>
> (One can also use the system from Firefox and IE)
>
> HTH,  -- Adrian

Unfortunately not, I want to speak HTTP from non Java clients. XML 
returned is fine.

Kingsley
>
> [1] www.reengineeringllc.com/iblClient1.java 
> <http://www.reengineeringllc.com/iblClient1.java>
>
> [2]  Internet Business Logic
> A Wiki and SOA Endpoint for Executable Open Vocabulary English Q/A 
> over SQL and RDF
> Online at www.reengineeringllc.com <http://www.reengineeringllc.com>
> Shared use is free, and there are no advertisements
>
> Adrian Walker
> Reengineering
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Kingsley Idehen 
> <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 12/10/10 10:13 AM, Adrian Walker wrote:
>>     Hi David --
>>
>>     You wrote...
>>
>>     /My question for this list is whether there are any model
>>     projects which are effectively using semantic technologies not
>>     just to make data open, but also to make the related definitional
>>     data more visible and easier to understand or compare across data
>>     sources. /
>>
>>     There's technology out there on the web that can help.
>>
>>     The basic idea is to write, say, different definitions of
>>     "unemployment", in executable English.
>>
>>     Then when a study is done by executing the English, the results
>>     can be explained in English, showing how the definitions were
>>     used to transform data.
>>
>>     Here's an example:
>>
>>     www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1.pdf
>>     <http://www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1.pdf>   (slides)
>>
>>     www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1Video.htm
>>     <http://www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1Video.htm> 
>>     (Flash video with audio)
>>
>>     The underlying system is live online at the same site.  Shared
>>     use is free.
>>
>>     Apologies if you have seen this before, and thanks for comments.
>>
>>                                                         -- Adrian
>
>     Adrian,
>
>     Do you have a service the emits machine readable structured data?
>     Naturally, any of the many RDF formats would do etc..
>
>     Kingsley
>
>>
>>     Internet Business Logic
>>     A Wiki and SOA Endpoint for Executable Open Vocabulary English
>>     Q/A over SQL and RDF
>>     Online at www.reengineeringllc.com <http://www.reengineeringllc.com>
>>     Shared use is free, and there are no advertisements
>>
>>     Adrian Walker
>>     Reengineering
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:31 AM, David Barber <dmbarber@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:dmbarber@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         I've had a varied but extensive history of dealing with
>>         government data in electronic form.  This started as a
>>         government documents librarian helping people find government
>>         data in electronic form, continued with sharing it on the
>>         early Internet, and most recently managing government data as
>>         a government employee.  Throughout this experience one of the
>>         major concerns associated with expanding electronic access to
>>         government data from multiple sources has been getting people
>>         to recognize and take into account the differences in the
>>         definitions associated with data elements.  This is
>>         particularly important for historical analysis or comparison
>>         of multiple governmental units.  For example, two governments
>>         will define unemployment differently and the same government
>>         will change its definition over time.  Unfortunately, it has
>>         been my experience that when people want to do such
>>         longitudinal or multi-government analyses they were often not
>>         motivated to pay attention to these differences.
>>
>>         My question for this list is whether there are any model
>>         projects which are effectively using semantic technologies
>>         not just to make data open, but also to make the related
>>         definitional data more visible and easier to understand or
>>         compare across data sources.  It is my hope that the
>>         technologies associated with linked open data can make this
>>         type of information more useful than when it was buried in
>>         the back of government documents.
>>
>>         Thanks in advance for any pointers to such efforts.
>>
>>         David Barber
>>
>>
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Kingsley Idehen	
>     President&  CEO
>     OpenLink Software
>     Web:http://www.openlinksw.com
>     Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen  <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen>
>     Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
>
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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	
President&  CEO
OpenLink Software
Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
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