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Re: Yahoo RDFa enahced results example

From: Martin Hepp (UniBW) <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:51:59 +0200
Message-ID: <4ABFDE7F.1020901@ebusiness-unibw.org>
To: Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>
CC: Eugenio Tacchini <eugenio@favoriti.it>, public-lod@w3.org, Evan Goer <goer@yahoo-inc.com>
Hi Juan,

Juan Sequeda wrote:
> Gotcha! Now I understand perfectly.
>
> I'm trying to get the local businesses in Austin to add RDFa. However, I
> have nothing tangible to show them. IMHO, the best way to convince business
> to do this is if you go through the SEO people. But until we don't see Yahoo
> (and Google) taking advantage of RDFa to enhance results, the business won't
> go through the hassle of adding RDFa.
>   
Yes and no ;-)
Yes, as far as the SEOs are concerned: I will be presenting 
GoodRelations + RDFa at SES 2009 in Chicago, likely one of the most 
important SEO events, and there is already give some interest among SEO 
experts in GoodRelations.

SEOs will have a huge market opportunity for helping companies optimize 
their GoodRelations markup. It will turn SEO from the art of improving a 
rank to the science of minimizing the search effort for a very specific 
target audience.


No, as far as Yahoo and Google are concerned: Their current moves are 
into the right direction, but in my opinion much too slow and cautious.
Additional details in Google and Yahoo search results are nice for 
convincing a local business to create a bit of GoodRelations markup. But 
that would be exploiting only 1% of the business potential.

Getting the remaining 99% of the cake will require different technology 
approaches and business models.  I guess they will smell the cheese and 
increase their investment fundamentally very soon.

So it may be good for a small business to see a bit of extra data in 
Google, Yahoo, and Bing. But the real target applications will be more 
fundamental innovations.

> *One final question. Yahoo crawls all vocabularies while Google only crawls
> their vocabulary, right?
To my knowledge, both crawl only a predefined list of vocabs. 
Fortunately, Yahoo crawls standard vocabs, Google invented their own
>  Austin is the live music capital of the world, so
> imagine the amount of music and event data on websites. If I use the music
> ontology to mark up the data, will Yahoo crawl this and potentially use it
> in their search results?
You have to ask Yahoo :-)
>  What is the best vocabulary for events (venue,
> time, description, price)?
>   
For events, I don't know. There is an austrian initiative, but it is 
still pretty much alpha.

As for the price: GoodRelations. Because, again an important 
distinction: It is not the event that has a price - it is a ticket 
(permission) to attend the event that has a price ;-)

There will be a respective recipie at


http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelationsTickets

soon; currently it is a stub...

Best
Martin


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