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Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

From: <blumauera@punkt.at>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:09:58 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Message-Id: <8A707054-B9CD-4FEE-9716-7C934CAA21A3@punkt.at>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: Brian Manley <brian.manley@gmail.com>, Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>, public-lod <public-lod@w3.org>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
kingsley, from a marketing perspective the first question one has to  
ask: who is the audience?

if you call it mesh-up, many people think: oh, that's a typo.

if you call it hack-a-thon some people feel attracted from outside of  
the ld-community.

so, who shall he the audience of this event? juan, I think that  
hackers play a crucial role if we want to see our community growing,  
great idea!

- andreas





Am 16.09.2009 um 22:37 schrieb Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>:

> Brian Manley wrote:
>> On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>
>>> Juan Sequeda wrote:
>>>> The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be  
>>>> done with Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic  
>>>> web hackers are all together at the same place.
>>> Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data  
>>> mashing.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon
>>> Why Hack when you can Mesh?
>>>
>>> Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued,  
>>> seriously :-)
>>>
>>
>> Kingsley, I find it rather ironic that someone whose cryptic,  
>> buzzword-overloaded, often unparsable messages here, on his blog  
>> and on twitter would complain about misconstrued terms or less-than- 
>> crystal-clear communication.
> As context improves on the Web my messages will be clearer. The  
> great thing is that I won't even have to edit (bar typos), they'll  
> just get clearer :-)
>>
>> If Juan wants to call it a Mashup, Hack-a-thon, or whatever...who  
>> cares?
> Some do, its an event aimed at an audience. And audience in this  
> context is supposed to imply: burgeoning pool of Linked Data meme  
> enthusiasts.
>>
>>> Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and  
>>> people with other data oriented technical skill sets not have a  
>>> look-in here? I don't think these profiles gravitate to events  
>>> that carry the  "Hacking" theme.
>>>
>>
>> Hell yeah, "hacking" is great term to use. Don't be such a stick in  
>> the mud. ;)
> I am a proud "stick in the mud" re. this matter.  I would like this  
> community to pay attention to "inclusion".
>
>
>
> Kingsley
>>
>>> Kingsley
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
>>>> Dept. of Computer Sciences
>>>> The University of Texas at Austin
>>>> www.juansequeda.com <http://www.juansequeda.com>
>>>> www.semanticwebaustin.org <http://www.semanticwebaustin.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com 
>>>>  <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Juan Sequeda wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>>       Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
>>>>       Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
>>>>       Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is  
>>>> the
>>>>       biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
>>>>       cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
>>>>       period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
>>>>       could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
>>>>       session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
>>>>       can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
>>>>       My objective is to get people out of this community excited
>>>>       about Linked Data and what they can do with it.
>>>>
>>>>       Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.
>>>>
>>>>       Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
>>>>       Dept. of Computer Sciences
>>>>       The University of Texas at Austin
>>>>       www.juansequeda.com <http://www.juansequeda.com>
>>>>       <http://www.juansequeda.com>
>>>>       www.semanticwebaustin.org <http://www.semanticwebaustin.org>
>>>>       <http://www.semanticwebaustin.org>
>>>>
>>>>   Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data  
>>>> Meshing?
>>>>   Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
>>>>   evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
>>>>   Web), really.
>>>>
>>>>   You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
>>>>   2.0 technologies handle that fine.
>>>>
>>>>   Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things  
>>>> aren't
>>>>   handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force
>>>>   presentation layer confined data recombinations, with code at the
>>>>   terminal.
>>>>
>>>>   I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a- 
>>>> thon :-)
>>>>
>>>>   --
>>>>
>>>>   Regards,
>>>>
>>>>   Kingsley Idehen       Weblog:
>>>>   http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>>>>   <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen>
>>>>   President & CEO OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kingsley Idehen          Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>>> President & CEO OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> -- 
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> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen          Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> President & CEO OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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