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RE: Linked railway data for the UK

From: Michael Smethurst <Michael.Smethurst@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 06:44:08 +0100
Message-ID: <C758DF305837284A8DA71883046BC74E055D4AB4@bbcxue219.national.core.bbc.co.uk>
To: "Daniel O'Connor" <daniel.oconnor@gmail.com>, "Libby Miller" <libby@nicecupoftea.org>
Cc: "Toby Inkster" <tai@g5n.co.uk>, <public-lod@w3.org>
Hi there

[with apologies in advance for any train based pedantry]

just looking at the details for manchester piccadilly station

http://ontologi.es/rail/stations/gb/MAN.rdf

and wondering if there's some confusion between location and administrative office / postal address.

in the case of piccadilly it's a complex of buildings. the admin office / postal address is in a high rise alongside the actual station and only connected by a covered walkway. hence the vcard of:

<vcard:label xml:lang="en">9th Floor, Piccadilly Tower, Piccadilly station. Manchester M1 2PZ</vcard:label>

which i guess would be more suitable for helicopters than trains :-)

but the lat, long is given as: 53.4775, -2.2313 which is also the admin building. whereas dbpedia has lat long of 53.477001, -2.230000 which is the actual station

not sure if there are any stations where the admin office is off site but i guess that's not impossible and might prove problematic in the future?1? anyway, just thought i'd point this out in case it caused any clashing claim problems when trying to mesh up with dbpedia, geonames etc

apologies for being a train bore and have a good weekend

michael



-----Original Message-----
From: public-lod-request@w3.org on behalf of Daniel O'Connor
Sent: Fri 5/15/2009 12:00 AM
To: Libby Miller
Cc: Toby Inkster; public-lod@w3.org
Subject: Re: Linked railway data for the UK
 
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Libby Miller <libby@nicecupoftea.org>wrote:

> very cool Toby!
>
> Did you know there was a database of all public transport nodes in the UK?
> http://www.naptan.org.uk/
>
> Michael Smethurst pointed me at this lately: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOPS
> which is interesting at the level of identifying rolling stock (perhaps you
> don't want to go quite that far :-)
>
> http://uktrains.pbworks.com/ has some good stuff too, including twitter
> feeds, semi-related perhaps?
>
> Libby
>
>
> On 14 May 2009, at 12:19, Toby Inkster wrote:
>
> I saw this on the linkeddata.org shopping list a few days ago, and
>> thought it would be a good thing to noodle with in my spare time. So
>> I've turned my screen scraping expertise at various railway-related
>> websites and put together this:
>>
>> http://ontologi.es/rail/
>>
>> It's still at a very early stage. Stations have URIs like:
>>
>> http://ontologi.es/rail/stations/gb/VIC (London Victoria)
>> http://ontologi.es/rail/stations/gb/STP (London St Pancras)
>> http://ontologi.es/rail/stations/gb/MAN (Manchester Piccadilly)
>> http://ontologi.es/rail/stations/gb/LIV (Liverpool Lime Street)
>>
>> If you know a station's three-letter Computer Reservation System code,
>> then you should be able to work out its URI. (I don't have any plans to
>> include data for other countries, but if anyone else is doing this, I'm
>> happy to provide 303 redirects.)
>>
>> Data is published in XHTML+RDFa, but server-side scripts are on hand to
>> translate to RDF/XML, Turtle, N-Triples and JSON if you hit those URIs
>> with the proper HTTP Accept header magic. (Or if you can't be bothered
>> to set the Accept header, then a simple '.ttl', '.nt', '.rdf' or '.json'
>> at the end will do the trick.)
>>
>> This is still a fairly early draft. I plan on including some
>> geonames.org links from each station to the town it serves. There are
>> owl:sameAs links to dbpedia.org (though some of these hit redirect
>> pages, so some work is still needed). The "facilities" area is also
>> going to be improved. I'd be happy to receive suggestions as to what
>> other improvements people would like.
>>
>> As part of the same project, I've created a rail vocabulary:
>>
>>        http://ontologi.es/rail/vocab#
>>
>>


Worth a look in:
http://www.freebase.com/view/metropolitan_transit/transit_stop


11,000+ stations and growing.


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