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RE: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets

From: Georgi Kobilarov <georgi.kobilarov@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:57:15 +0100
Message-ID: <180C011CD4FF654AB4B73A9A5AD7472C0A51AC@aristoteles.zuhause.lan>
To: "Steve Judkins" <steve@wisdomnets.com>, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, "Hugh Glaser" <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: <public-lod@w3.org>
Hi Steve,

Changes to Wikipedia *must* be reviewed by a user looking at the wiki
markup. We can build tools to make it easier to create the markup around
Infoboxes, but we can't skip the step of having a user approve the
changed wiki markup. It's a Wikipedia guideline.

Cheers,
Georgi

--
Georgi Kobilarov
Freie Universitšt Berlin
www.georgikobilarov.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-lod-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Judkins
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:51 PM
> To: 'Kingsley Idehen'; 'Hugh Glaser'
> Cc: public-lod@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets
> 
> Another goal would be to allow this pipeline to extend full circle
back
> to
> Wikipedia so that users and agents can pass corrections and new
content
> back
> to Wikipedia for review and inclusion in future release without
editing
> the
> wiki directly (we need to protect our watershed).  Is there another
> thread
> that addresses this somewhere?
> 
> -steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Judkins [mailto:steve@wisdomnets.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:40 PM
> To: 'Kingsley Idehen'; 'Hugh Glaser'
> Cc: 'public-lod@w3.org'
> Subject: RE: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets
> 
> It seems like this has the potential to become a nice collaborative
> production pipeline. It would be nice to have a feed for data updates,
> so we
> can fire up our EC2 instance when the data has been processed and
> packaged
> by the providers we are interested in.  For example, if Openlink wants
> to
> fire up their AMI to processes the raw dumps from
> http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Downloads32 into this cloud storage, we can
> wait
> until a virtuoso ready package has been produced before we update.  As
> more
> agents get involved in processing the data, this will allow for more
> automation notifications of updated dumps or SPARQL endpoints.
> 
> -Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-lod-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Kingsley Idehen
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:20 PM
> To: Hugh Glaser
> Cc: public-lod@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets
> 
> 
> Hugh Glaser wrote:
> > Thanks for the swift response!
> > I'm still puzzled - sorry to be slow.
> > http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/#2
> > Says:
> > Amazon EC2 customers can access this data by creating their own
> personal
> Amazon EBS volumes, using the public data set snapshots as a starting
> point.
> They can then access, modify and perform computation on these volumes
> directly using their Amazon EC2 instances and just pay for the compute
> and
> storage resources that they use.
> >
> > Does this not mean it costs me money on my EC2 account? Or is there
> some
> other way of accessing the data? Or am I looking at the wrong bit?
> >
> Okay, I see what I overlooked: the cost of paying for an AMI that
> mounts
> these EBS volumes, even though Amazon is charging $0.00 for uploading
> these huge amounts of data where it would usually charge.
> 
> So to conclude, using the loaded data sets isn't free, but I think we
> have to be somewhat appreciative of a value here, right? Amazon is
> providing a service that is ultimately pegged to usage (utility
model),
> and the usage comes down to value associated with that scarce resource
> called time.
> > Ie Can you give me a clue how to get at the data without using my
> credit
> card please? :-)
> >
> You can't you will need someone to build an EC2 service for you and
eat
> the costs on your behalf. Of course such a service isn't impossible in
> a
> "Numerati" [1] economy, but we aren't quite there yet, need the Linked
> Data Web in place first :-)
> 
> Links:
> 
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/64gsan
> 
> Kingsley
> > Best
> > Hugh
> >
> > On 05/12/2008 02:28, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hugh Glaser wrote:
> >
> >> Exciting stuff, Kingsley.
> >> I'm not quite sure I have worked out how I might use it though.
> >> The page says that hosting data is clearly free, but I can't see
how
> to
> get at it without paying for it as an EC2 customer.
> >> Is this right?
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> > Hugh,
> >
> > No, shouldn't cost anything if the LOD data sets are hosted in this
> > particular location :-)
> >
> >
> > Kingsley
> >
> >> Hugh
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/12/2008 15:30, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Please see: <http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/> ; potentially
> the
> >> final destination of all published RDF archives from the LOD cloud.
> >>
> >> I've already made a request on behalf of LOD, but additional
> requests
> >> from the community will accelerate the general comprehension and
> >> awareness at Amazon.
> >>
> >> Once the data sets are available from Amazon, database
constructions
> >> costs will be significantly alleviated.
> >>
> >> We have DBpedia reconstruction down to 1.5 hrs (or less) based on
> >> Virtuoso's in-built integration with Amazon S3 for backup and
> >> restoration etc..  We could get the reconstruction of the entire
LOD
> >> cloud down to some interesting numbers once all the data is
situated
> in
> >> an Amazon data center.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Kingsley Idehen       Weblog:
> http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> >> President & CEO
> >> OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kingsley Idehen       Weblog:
http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> > President & CEO
> > OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kingsley Idehen	      Weblog:
http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> President & CEO
> OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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