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Re: GoodRelations - The Web Ontology for E-Commerce

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:38:11 -0400
Message-ID: <48A040C3.3020407@openlinksw.com>
To: martin.hepp@unibw.de
CC: "Hausenblas, Michael" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>, semantic-web at W3C <semantic-web@w3c.org>, public-lod@w3.org

Martin Hepp wrote:
> Hi Michael:
>
> Hausenblas, Michael wrote:
>> Another quick Q: I dunno, but skimming the user guide at [1] didn't 
>> suggest to me that there are already real-world datasets (such as 
>> Amazon, etc.) available that have been published using the 
>> GoodRelations ontology - can you correct me on that one? IMHO this 
>> would really make a great linked dataset (I'm CCing linked data 
>> mailing list therefore ...).
>>
>>   
> As for product model data: I think this will be a great source of 
> linked open data. We have contacts to several manufacturers and 
> companies hosting respective databases, so expect some data soon. 
> However, there are of course thousands of such sources, so if anyone 
> needs help in properly modeling the export using GoodRelations, we 
> should be able to provide the modeling pattern.
>
> As for offering data: I think such is usally way more volatile, so in 
> here, we are working on scrips etc, that produce RDF/XML dumps on 
> demand (or as nightly batches). So Amazon offerings would likely be 
> data one should load freshly before executing a query.
>
> Again - anybody who needs help in exposing product and 
> services-related data using GoodRelations, please contact me; we will 
> try to help as much as we can. There will also be a "recipes" page on 
> the GoodRelations Web page soon, describing typical scenarios in a 
> cookbook-style.
>
> Best
>
> Martin
Micheal / Martin,

I see GoodRelations as a nice Ontology for RDFizing data from ecommerce 
data spaces such as Amazon, eBay etc..

We will certainly explore the use of GoodRelations in our Sponger 
Catridges for Amazon, eBay, and others.

Links:

1.  http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtSponger


Kingsley
>
>> Keep up the great work Martin!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>     Michael
>>
>> [1] http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/primer/
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>  Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
>>  Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
>>  JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
>>  
>>  http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>     From: Martin Hepp [mailto:martin.hepp@unibw.de]     Sent: Monday, 
>> August 11, 2008 12:22 PM
>>     To: Hausenblas, Michael
>>     Cc: semantic-web at W3C
>>     Subject: Re: GoodRelations - The Web Ontology for E-Commerce
>>     
>>     
>>     Hi Michael:
>>     
>>     Thanks! As for relating it to [1]: As for as I understand that 
>> work, it is mostly about describing what a product *is*. 
>> GoodRelations is about describing the offers of such products. So [1] 
>> is for me rather an extension of what eClassOWL is providing - a 
>> vocabulary for products, and for exchanging vocabularies of products. 
>> The main overlap I see is that GoodRelations also contains (and must 
>> contain) a small top-level ontology for product ontologies, which is 
>> like a very small subset of what you can do with STEP.
>>     
>>     I am pretty sure that this part can be extended in a compatible 
>> way so that it will be aligned with [1], but this very much depends 
>> on the actual modeling of [1] in OWL or future versions of OWL.
>>     
>>     The primary goal of GoodRelations is to do *now what can be done 
>> now* with the current version of OWL on current, popular 
>> infrastructure. It's about making Semantic-Web-based e-commerce a 
>> reality in 2008...
>>     
>>     By the way, instructions on how to create own 
>> GoodRelations-compliant ontologies for products and services are at
>>     
>>     http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/documentation/vocabulary-dev 
>>
>>     
>>     So in short: I personally think both efforts should eventually 
>> converge. But, based on a couple of years of work on simpler problems 
>> than those in the scope of the incubator group, I think it will be at 
>> least a few years down the road until the ambitious goals of the 
>> incubator group can be turned into deployable results.
>>     
>>     Note that GoodRelations and eClassOWL 5.1.4 in combination are 
>> readily available     1. in current W3C languages,     2. usable on 
>> current infrastructure (repositories + reasoners)
>>     3. compliant with all known W3C best practices.
>>     
>>     You can really start annotating offers TODAY. I am not joking...
>>     
>>     We will also provide a GoodRelations Annotator (like the 
>> "foaf-a-matic" of GoodRelations) and a Validation Services that helps 
>> keeping up data quality.
>>     
>>     Best
>>     
>>     Martin
>>     
>>     
>>     Hausenblas, Michael wrote:
>>         Martin,
>>        
>>         Great work! We'll very likely soon be able use it in our UAd 
>> project. One question, though, I wanted to ask you already at ESWC08 
>> but (seems both) didn't find the time to talk in greater detail: How 
>> is this work related to the W3C Product Modelling Incubator Group [1]?
>>        
>>         Cheers,
>>             Michael
>>        
>>         [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/w3pm/
>>        
>>         ----------------------------------------------------------
>>          Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
>>          Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
>>          JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
>>                    http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
>>         ----------------------------------------------------------
>>                 
>>          
>>             -----Original Message-----
>>             From: semantic-web-request@w3.org             
>> [mailto:semantic-web-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Martin Hepp
>>             Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:22 AM
>>             To: semantic-web at W3C
>>             Subject: ANN: GoodRelations - The Web Ontology for 
>> E-Commerce
>>            
>>             Dear all:
>>            
>>             We are proud to announce the official release of the 
>> GoodRelations
>>             ontology, a comprehensive effort for making e-commerce on 
>> the Semantic
>>             Web a reality.
>>            
>>             GoodRelations is a lightweight yet sophisticated 
>> vocabulary for
>>             describing the details of offers made on the Web. It 
>> empowers
>>             manufacturers and shop operators to express the exact 
>> meaning of their
>>             offers in a machine-readable way. This allows search 
>> engines to support
>>             more precise search, and partners in the value chain to 
>> automate their
>>             content integration tasks.
>>            
>>             1. Project page
>>             http://purl.org/goodrelations/
>>             2. Ontology
>>             http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1
>>             3. Specification (via client-side rendering)
>>             http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1
>>             3. User's Guide
>>             http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/primer/
>>            
>>             GoodRelations complements the eClassOWL ontology, which 
>> is the first
>>             non-toy ontology for products and services. Since the 
>> initial             release of
>>             eClassOWL at ESWC 2005, that ontology has gained 
>> remarkable attention.
>>             The latest version 5.1.4 provides more than 30,000 
>> product classes and
>>             more than 5,000 attributes for describing product features.
>>            
>>             The relationship between these two ontologies is 
>> straightforward:
>>             - eClassOWL provides classes, attributes, and values for 
>>             describing what
>>             a product or service is.
>>             - GoodRelations provides everything needed for describing 
>> the
>>             relationship between a business entity and a product or 
>> service, i.e.,
>>             the actual offer and its details. That’s also the origin 
>> of the name –
>>             it’s an ontology for the relations between goods and 
>> business entities.
>>            
>>             While eClassOWL is the largest ontology for products and 
>> services, one
>>             can use any other products or services ontology in 
>> combination with
>>             GoodRelations. Only a few guidelines must be met.
>>             For example, the Austrian ebSemantics initiative is close 
>> to release
>>             several products and services ontologies for particular 
>>             domains (events,
>>             tickets, accommodation, etc.) that will be 
>> GoodRelations-compliant.
>>            
>>             The main features of GoodRelations are as follows:
>>             - Based on currently available Semantic Web standards, 
>> tools, and
>>             infrastructure (“ready to run as of today”)
>>             - Minimal requirements on reasoner support – any 
>> RDF-S-style reasoner,
>>             OWL DLP, DL, or ter-Horst reasoner will work
>>             - Support for all common business functions, like sell, 
>> lease, dispose,
>>             repair, etc.
>>             - Suits both for explicit instances, product models, and 
>>             anonymous instances
>>             - Supports different prices for different types of 
>> customers             or quantities
>>             - Supports product bundles in combination with all kinds 
>> of units of
>>             measurements (“2 kg butter plus 2 cell phones for € 99” 
>> would             be no problem)
>>             - Supports price specifications both as single values or 
>> ranges
>>             - Supports intervals and units of measurements for 
>> product features
>>             - Compatible with eClassOWL and other ontologies
>>             - Supports ISO 4217 currencies
>>             - Supports defining eligible regions
>>             - Supports common delivery and shipping methods
>>             - Supports accepted payment methods
>>             - Offerings can be constrained to certain eligible 
>> business entities
>>             (e.g. resellers only)
>>             - Supports warranty promises, i.e., the duration and scope
>>             - Supports charges for certain payment or delivery 
>> options; the latter
>>             also individually per region
>>             - Compatible with international standards: ISO 3166, ISO 
>> 4217,
>>             UN/CEFACT, eCl@ss, etc.
>>            
>>             GoodRelations is the result of about five years of work 
>> in progress,
>>             carried out at multiple institutions. The ontology is 
>> released under a
>>             Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license.
>>            
>>             Any feedback is very much appreciated! Also, if you need 
>> support in
>>             adopting GoodRelations to your applications or data, 
>> please contact us.
>>             We are already working with several organizations on making
>>             GoodRelations part of their technology.
>>            
>>             Best wishes
>>            
>>             Martin Hepp
>>             -------------------------------------------------------
>>             e-business and web science research group
>>             bundeswehr university munich
>>             e-mail mhepp@computer.org
>>             skype  mfhepp
>>             web    http://www.heppnetz.de
>>            
>>            
>>            
>>                
>>   


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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	      Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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