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Re: Ideas for Recommendations for Report

From: Corey A Harper <corey.harper@nyu.edu>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:06:06 -0400
Message-ID: <4D8D03BE.3020601@nyu.edu>
To: public-lld@w3.org

Thanks so much for putting your thoughts out there and posting them to 
this list. For starters, this is the first I saw the guidelines from the 
CIDOC community on linked data, and seeing the document made my week.

I couldn't agree more about broadening this discussion beyond just the 
library corner of the cultural heritage world, and also looking at this 
from the context of end-users and readers. I also think Ed's followup 
comment that "the walls between the descriptive practices of archives, 
museums and libraries make less and less sense as web technology has 
been adopted" deserves to go directly into the report.

I think the benefits of broadening the conversation would result in 
enrichment of the library data as well.

Just by way of example, I've been thinking about this over the past few 
weeks while browsing the Social Networks and Archival Context Project 
(http://socialarchive.iath.virginia.edu/) and the EAC-CPF data they're 
deriving from EAD-encoded finding aids from California, the PacNW, 
Virginia, LC and elsewhere. As I look at this stuff, I think about how 
useful it would be to have the linkages between historic entities appear 
in interfaces while searching for "books" in a library "catalog", and 
given that the SNAC folks are linking to VIAF, it shouldn't be all that 
hard to make that happen...

Ed, Ross - would you mind if I hopped onto your call on Monday morning? 
I think I'd get a lot out of it, and who knows--maybe I'd even have 
something useful to contribute.

Great weekend, all!


> Hi Richard,
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Richard Light
> <richard@light.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> I've been lurking on this list for a while, thinking about the various
>> debates, and this call for comments has helped spur me into some sort of
>> action. I've put the thoughts which come to the front of my mind here:
>> http://light.demon.co.uk/wordpress/?p=91
>> Comments on my comments are welcome.
> Thanks for your blog post, and for mentioning it in here. I think you
> make an *extremely* important point that Linked Data allows
> traditional library data to participate in a larger ecosystem of data
> on the Web. And that this is actually a natural evolution of
> cooperative cataloging models.
> Perhaps I'm being overly naive, but the walls between the descriptive
> practices of archives, museums and libraries make less and less sense
> as web technology has been adopted. Indeed, many of the interests of
> the museum and archival community are reflected in the use cases that
> the working group collected [1]. So it would be a shame to
> under-represent them in our final report.
> Would you be willing to join Ross Singer and myself on Skype to talk
> about the "benefits" section of the report on Monday of next week at
> 14:00:00 UTC? Anyone else who is reading this and wants to participate
> please just respond on list. My apologies for not coordinating this
> better with Emma and Tom (who expressed interest earlier). We can
> adjust the time a bit, but we definitely should meet Monday so there
> is time to write down our thoughts for the discussion on Thursday's
> telecon.
> //Ed
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Cases
> [2] http://bit.ly/gVdyTb
>> Richard
>> In message <20110324165012.753293kdl33zejec@kcoyle.net>, Karen Coyle
>> <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> writes
>>> The working group has fleshed out text on the issues that have been
>>> identified around LLD, and now wants to gather ideas for recommendations
>>> that the report can make. Recommendations can be at various levels from
>>> general to specific, and it would be good to have a number of proposals that
>>> could result in gains in the short term.
>>> We assume that the recommendations will evolve out of the issues. At the
>>> high level, the issues we have identified are:
>>>   * 1.1 Linked Data is an emerging technology
>>>   * 1.2 Library data is expressed in library-specific formats that cannot
>>> be easily shared outside the library community
>>>   * 1.3 The library standards process is highly top-down and non-agile
>>>   * 1.4 Current library data practices are expensive (and the true costs
>>> are unmeasured)
>>>   * 1.5 Library ecosystem is designed for stability and resists change
>>>   * 1.6 Library data may have rights issues that prevent open publication
>>> Each section has a fair amount of detail.
>>> As a first pass, the general categories for recommendations are:
>>>   * 2.1 Identify costs of current practices, and costs and ROI to moving
>>> to LLD
>>>   * 2.2 Identify issues for migration to LLD, both technical, managerial,
>>> and intellectual
>>>   * 2.3 Identify areas where existing library community standards and
>>> Semantic Web standards require extension or development to support LLD
>>>   * 2.4 Identify tools that are needed to support the creation and use of
>>> LLD
>>>   * 2.5 Analysis for the transformation of current library data to LLD
>>>         o 2.5.1 Deduplication
>>>   * 2.6 Cultivate a research and development environment
>>>   * 2.7 Create educational opportunities
>>>   * 2.8 Include metadata design in library and information science
>>> education
>>>   * 2.9 Foster a discussion about open data and rights
>>> We expect there to be iteration between the issues and the recommendations
>>> as we work on this, so if you have a recommendation with no issue, or
>>> vice-versa, please send it in.
>>> We are asking committee members and anyone else who wishes to begin to
>>> fill out points in the recommendations area. (We'll turn it into text as
>>> part of the editing process, so short bullets are ok if they make sense.) If
>>> you do not have edit access to the wiki, you can air your recommendations on
>>> this list and we'll gather them. Of course, discussion is encouraged. This
>>> is the real meat of our report and all ideas are welcome.
>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_issues_page
>> --
>> Richard Light

Corey A Harper
Metadata Services Librarian
New York University Libraries
20 Cooper Square, 3rd Floor
New York, NY 10003-7112
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