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Re: An IRC discussion with Alexandre Bertails re SSUE-19:

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 17:43:49 -0400
Message-ID: <51AFB115.6060506@openlinksw.com>
To: public-ldp-wg@w3.org
On 6/5/13 5:39 PM, Henry Story wrote:
> On 5 Jun 2013, at 20:26, Alexandre Bertails <bertails@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> On 06/05/2013 02:05 PM, Henry Story wrote:
>>> Well, I just proved it from basic principles. You can decide not to
>>> be convinced, but that is beyond the reaches of reason then. If you
>>> explained what did not convince you then one could progress.
>> Henry, I just wanted to make clear that I didn't agree that you proved
>> anything. The same questions remain: text/turtle does not tell you
>> that you can infer the interaction with a resource by looking at its
>> RDF type.
> Whoever told you that a mime type should tell you anything about how
> to interact with a resource? The role of the mime type is just to tell
> you what the type of the bytes in the body that constitute the
> representation returned by the resource are. That and a few other
> headers will allow you to parse those bytes to reconsitute the media
> sent to you.
>
> Where do you get the idea that mime types should do anything else? (spec
> text to  support your point of view would be helpful here).
>
> Put it another way: if you did put the information in the mime type that
> the resoure was an LDPC, using your hypothetical
>
>     text/turtle+ldpc
>    
> why would that be any more reliable about  the resource being an LDPC
> than the content of a text/turtle graph just containing the triple
>
>    <> a ldp:Container .
>
> After all mime types could also be wrong ( especially as you are adding
> semantic information now to the mime type, rather than syntactic
> information ! )
>
> So text/turtle+ldpc does not give you any more reliable information that
> putting the information in the body.
>
> If you want it in the header than just use the Link header to put that.
>
> The mime type is to describe the type of the body of the HTTP message.
> But what we need to do is describe the resource which we are going to interact
> with. That is what Resource Description Framework is for.
>
> Henry

Amen!

Kingsley
>
>> Alexandre.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Social Web Architect
>>> http://bblfish.net/
>>>
>>>
> Social Web Architect
> http://bblfish.net/
>
>
>
>


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