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Re: Creation of Containers

From: Wilde, Erik <Erik.Wilde@emc.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:59:47 -0500
To: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>, "public-ldp-wg@w3.org" <public-ldp-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CCC65B0B.BD31%erik.wilde@emc.com>
hello all.

On 2012-11-11 13:21 , "Andy Seaborne" <andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>
wrote:
>On 07/11/12 23:11, Richard Cyganiak wrote:
>> On 7 Nov 2012, at 22:38, Wilde, Erik wrote:
>>> - designate a magic "container of containers" which essentially works
>>>as a
>>> container factory. when you create a new member in this container, it
>>>by
>>> definition becomes a new container that is then accessible like any
>>>other
>>> container.
>> Yes, that's the model that works well with the current LDP spec. The
>>nice thing about this is that nothing needs to be said about it in the
>>spec -- it's a pure server implementation issue.
>That lacks control on the containers name yet containers represent some
>significant grouping in the server so I'd expect that the choice of name
>matters (e.g. same on several servers, differing just by the host name).

if it's done as a regular (but value-added) member operation, then a
slug-like mechanism could be used. in the end, client-supplied names
always only can be suggestions, and minting URIs is under the sole control
of the server, depending on naming conventions, and already existing URIs.

>The IRC logs example is a good one here - http://w3/irc-logs/2012/12/25
>- in 2013, does the server need to have magic or can it be a client that
>creates 2013, 2013/01, 2013/01/07irc-ldp.ttl (Jan 7th being the first
>Monday in 2013).

i don't think there's any magic required for that, this could just be
server-controlled behavior (outside of the spec, but implemented by that
specific server managing its containers in this specific way). as a user
of this specific service, i would very much prefer for containers to be be
created (and probably even be deleted) on demand, without me having to go
in and create all the required intermediate levels.

cheers,

dret.
Received on Monday, 12 November 2012 16:00:50 UTC

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