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Re: IRI agenda items for IETF 84

From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:22:32 -0600
Message-ID: <5005E5A8.8070808@stpeter.im>
To: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
CC: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, "public-iri@w3.org" <public-iri@w3.org>
That's unfortunate, as is the fact that the chairs and some of the
document editors won't be able to participate in person. I am starting
to doubt whether we can hold a productive meeting at IETF 84 (e.g., I
have never chaired a meeting remotely).

However, even aside from the large topic of whether IRIs are truly
needed or useful (see John's SRI proposal [1] and recent threads), it's
also true that we are far behind on our milestones and we need to either
finish this work or decide not to complete it. In fact we don't have
many open issues on 3987bis and 4395bis [2], but the editors haven't had
much time to complete the work. The other documents have received even
less attention (other than a short burst of activity on the bidi document).

I feel that we need to set a hard deadline for completion of at least
3987bis and 4395bis (say, starting the Working Group Last Call before
the end of September). If we cannot achieve that, then I would
reluctantly concede that we need to close the WG rather than keep it on
life support any longer.

Peter, as co-chair

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-iri-sri/

[2] http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/iri/trac/report/1

On 7/10/12 12:20 AM, Dave Thaler wrote:
> I'll be in Vancouver but IRI is scheduled opposite Behave,
> which I chair.
> 
> -Dave
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Martin J. Dürst" [mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp]
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:25 PM
>> To: Peter Saint-Andre
>> Cc: public-iri@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: IRI agenda items for IETF 84
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> On 2012/07/10 0:39, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>> Does anyone have agenda requests? If not, there might not be a need to
>>> hold a meeting.
>>
>> I'm currently working on an update of draft-ietf-iri-3987bis. That work will be
>> over by next Monday. As a result of that, some agenda items may come up.
>>
>> Given that this time, neither of the chairs and (almost?) no editors will be
>> there, it will be rather difficult to hold a meeting, but if we have actual
>> agenda items (I'm not sure if the chairs want to consider John's new draft an
>> agenda item or a filler), we could give it a try.
>>
>> Regards,   Martin.
>>
>>
>>> On 6/29/12 1:35 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>> If you have suggestions for topics to cover during the IRI WG session
>>>> at IETF 84, please send them to the list so that Chris and I can
>>>> formulate an agenda.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Peter
Received on Tuesday, 17 July 2012 22:23:00 GMT

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