Tools (was Re: Interledger Reference Code Released)

The consensus on the last call was that IRC was not meeting our needs.
Happy for us to not use Slack but we should then identify our requirements
and make a choice based on those.

Off the top of my head it seems like these are key reqs:

   - Good client software/tools
   - Integration with GitHub

Any others?
Any reasons from those on the call why they'd like to use Slack?

On 28 January 2016 at 15:48, Steven Roose <stevenroose@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not a really big fan of Slack. I'd rather promote the IRC channel over
> at W3C.
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Adrian Hope-Bailie <
> adrian@hopebailie.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the input Rafael and Xavier.
>>
>> I have already created the team interledger.slack.com so I thought we
>> should kick the tyres for a bit since this is the system that was suggested
>> on our last call.
>>
>> This sounds like something we should discuss next week
>>
>> On 28 January 2016 at 13:32, Rafael Pereira <rafael@rippex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Adrian, I would be careful with slack, unless you will use the paid
>>> version (8+ USD/user) there is a limitation on accessing the group's
>>> message history (10,000 messages). Even if this project is eligible for
>>> a special condition
>>> <https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits>,
>>> I wouldn't go this way. If I would use a IM app, I would choose Fleep
>>> <https://fleep.io/pricing> over Slack because it has no limitations on
>>> history access and search, has integrations
>>> <https://fleep.io/blog/integrations/>, and is compatible
>>> <https://fleep.io/features> with email. I'm much more comfortable with
>>> that as my IM in general.
>>> The other possible option is a forum (hosted, or a google forum), IMO,
>>> the best way to keep discussions organized.
>>>
>>> Em qui, 28 de jan de 2016 às 07:52, Adrian Hope-Bailie <
>>> adrian@hopebailie.com> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Have setup slack and will send out invites to the group.
>>>>
>>>> It has some great integrations so we can link to IRC for W3C archive
>>>> purposes and to Git.
>>>>
>>>> Happy to try gitter but Slack was pitched on the call so going with
>>>> that for now.
>>>>
>>>> On 28 January 2016 at 11:49, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28 January 2016 at 10:35, Adrian Hope-Bailie <adrian@hopebailie.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We're using #interledger on the W3C IRC but it's not widely used.
>>>>>> In the last call we discussed setting up Slack which I am
>>>>>> investigating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!  I'll join.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have used slack a bit in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've had good experiences with gitter.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to host your own, perhaps rocket.chat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 January 2016 at 10:46, Melvin Carvalho <
>>>>>> melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27 January 2016 at 17:40, Stefan Thomas <stefan@ripple.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very strange, the "Use of const in strict mode" error is exactly
>>>>>>>> the one you get when trying to run it with an older node version like
>>>>>>>> 0.10.x. But the log clearly shows you're using 5.5.0.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The second error I believe is an issue with NPM. There is a
>>>>>>>> "--color" command line parameter that is being passed and somehow NPM has
>>>>>>>> decided to search for a module called "--color".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would make sure that you don't have any old versions of Node or
>>>>>>>> NPM installed somewhere. Especially check the ones in your path (run "node
>>>>>>>> -v" and "npm -v".)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also created a possible fix:
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/interledger/five-bells-demo/pull/24 - This
>>>>>>>> forces all parts of the demo to use the same Node/NPM. I'll get it
>>>>>>>> reviewed/merged ASAP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's working now ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very cool visualization ... I'll be experimenting with this over the
>>>>>>> next days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry if this has come up before: is there a canonical chat area for
>>>>>>> this project?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Melvin Carvalho <
>>>>>>>> melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2 November 2015 at 17:47, Evan Schwartz <evan@ripple.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've released our reference implementation of the Interledger
>>>>>>>>>> Protocol. Try out the demo at
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/interledger/five-bells-demo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ×
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ​
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a basic implementation of the Universal mode of the
>>>>>>>>>> protocol. The demo runs a number of independent ledgers and connectors and
>>>>>>>>>> allows you to select any two ledgers and send an interledger payment
>>>>>>>>>> between them. This is meant to illustrate how easy it could (and arguably
>>>>>>>>>> should) be to send money between payment networks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More documentation, draft specs, and other use case demos to come
>>>>>>>>>> but we're looking forward to hearing your feedback on this in the meantime!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having issues getting this running.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  npm start
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> const demo = require('./src/services/demo')
>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess that's an npm thing, so i downloaded npm 5.5
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But same issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SyntaxError: Use of const in strict mode.
>>>>>>>>>     at Module._compile (module.js:439:25)
>>>>>>>>>     at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:474:10)
>>>>>>>>>     at Module.load (module.js:356:32)
>>>>>>>>>     at Function.Module._load (module.js:312:12)
>>>>>>>>>     at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:497:10)
>>>>>>>>>     at startup (node.js:119:16)
>>>>>>>>>     at node.js:935:3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> npm ERR! Linux 3.16.0-44-generic
>>>>>>>>> npm ERR! argv
>>>>>>>>> "/home/melvin/dev/node/node-v5.5.0-linux-x64/bin/node"
>>>>>>>>> "/home/melvin/dev/node/node-v5.5.0-linux-x64/bin/npm" "start"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *npm ERR! node v5.5.0npm ERR! npm  v3.3.12*npm ERR! code
>>>>>>>>> ELIFECYCLE
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I tried
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> node index.js
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> npm ERR! Error: ENOENT, open
>>>>>>>>> '/home/melvin/dev/five-bells-demo/node_modules/five-bells-ledger/node_modules/--color/package.json'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, Im probably making a simple mistake here.  Any tips on a
>>>>>>>>> workaround would be great, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Evan Schwartz | Software Architect | Ripple
>>>>>>>>>> [image: ripple.com] <http://ripple.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Obrigado,
>>> Rafael
>>>
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