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Belated regrets re Teleconference 28 November 2012

From: Andy Heath <andyheath@axelrod.plus.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:55:42 +0000
Message-ID: <50B6966E.5000201@axelrod.plus.com>
To: public-indie-ui@w3.org
Belated apologies for missing the call - I really don't know where my 
brain went today, I confused my diary reminders for two different calls.
I'm suspecting before the end of this work we may have an Alzheimers 
patient in the group (me) to practise implementations on ;-) :-).

Action items noted and responses planned.
Apologies for this noise but good manners are important for me.

andy
> Minutes of the 28 November 2012 IndieUI meeting are posted to
> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html and copied below.
>
>
>   Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference
>
>
>     28 Nov 2012
>
> Agenda
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0040.html>
>
> See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-irc>
>
>
>     Attendees
>
> Present
>     Katie_Haritos-Shea, Joseph_Scheuhammer, James_Craig, Michael_Cooper,
>     hober, Rich, [Apple]
> Regrets
>     Janina_Sajka
> Chair
>     Michael_Cooper
> Scribe
>     ryladog, MichaelC
>
>
>     Contents
>
>   * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#agenda>
>      1. Telecon Time Scheduling
>         <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#item01>
>      2. Editors Draft
>         <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#item02>
>      3. Edits <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#item03>
>      4. OPen Action Item
>         <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#item04>
>   * Summary of Action Items
>     <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> <trackbot> Date: 28 November 2012
>
> <Ryladog> scribe:ryladog
>
>
>       Telecon Time Scheduling
>
> MC: Time 6pm eastern with one bi-weekly at the other time
> ... One ever 4 weeks at any particular call time
> ... Is that a correct summary?
> ... Is this a good idea to have alternating call times?
>
> RS: good idea
>
> <jcraig> +1
>
> +1
>
> <clown> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/14-indie-ui-minutes.html#item02
>
> MC: One every 4 weeks at this time, and once every 4 weeks at the other time
> ... Resolutions: Indie UI will designate alternate call times
> ... Not sure if it went to the list
>
> <jcraig> The specific time of the other call should go to the list
>
> MC: Suggested Easter 1pm and 5pm on Wenesdays
> ... Suggested Eastern Time 1pm and 5pm on Wednesdays
>
>
>       Editors Draft
>
>
>       Edits
>
> JC: I have a list that I am working on
> ... some are substance and some are editorial
> ... Probably not controversial, but may need some discussion
>
> <MichaelC> IndieUI Events Editors´ Draft
> <https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndieUI/raw-file/tip/src/indie-ui-events.html>
>
> MC: To follow progress please look at this ediotrs darft
>
>
>       OPen Action Item
>
> MC: Most are for folks that are not here today
>
> <MichaelC> Open Actions <https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/open>
>
> <MichaelC> action-29?
>
> <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Sangwhan Moon to send list of Opera use cases
> and suggest requirements for mainstream events -- due 2012-12-01 -- OPEN
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/29
>
> MC: Pending Operra Use Cases
>
> <MichaelC> action-18
>
> <clown> action-18?
>
> <trackbot> ACTION-18 -- Andy Heath to summarize important or common
> preferences/keys list from AfA/APIP/GPII, etc. and send to the IndieUI
> group for discussion and potential inclusion in the User Context
> deliverable. -- due 2012-11-08 -- OPEN
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/18
>
> MC: Andy has one that is not urgent. Should we postpone the due date to
> 31 january?
> ... JC says yes
>
> <MichaelC> action-18 due 31 January
>
> <trackbot> ACTION-18 Summarize important or common preferences/keys list
> from AfA/APIP/GPII, etc. and send to the IndieUI group for discussion
> and potential inclusion in the User Context deliverable. due date now 31
> January
>
> MC: All other actons are on James
> ... Did we complete the wa;lthrough at the F2F?
>
> JC: yes
>
> MC: What can we get other people in the Working Group working on in the
> meantime?
> ... Do we to be making proposals for features? Putting togehter test cases
>
> JC: It may be early for that.
>
> MC: Is there any way that wwe could assign so of the wok to anyone else?
>
> JC: Awaiting for something from Andy. Maybe that is his action item we
> just postponed
> ... Maaybe it was not an official action
>
> <clown> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/14-indie-ui-minutes.html
>
> JC: It is down the list, it says, Andy agreed to send text to the list
> about user settings, sometime whether a natvie device cannot support a
> feature
>
> <MichaelC> *ACTION:* andy to send suggested text about implict vs
> explict user settings and sending preferences even if client doesn´t
> support [recorded in
> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action01]
>
> <trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Send suggested text about implict vs
> explict user settings and sending preferences even if client doesn´t
> support [on Andy Heath - due 2012-12-05].
>
> <MichaelC> action-32: also see discussion at
> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/14-indie-ui-minutes.html#item04
>
> <trackbot> ACTION-32 Send suggested text about implict vs explict user
> settings and sending preferences even if client doesn´t support notes added
>
> <MichaelC> action-13?
>
> <trackbot> ACTION-13 -- James Craig to add event for moving focus to the
> app toolbar -- due 2012-10-31 -- OPEN
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/13
>
> JC: Maybe something that would be covered by there are contects where
> standard tab navigation is overwriten. Aria 2 you will be able to edit this
> ... THere is a key command on Mac and maybe on windows, that you move
> the toolbar, amybe we could expose this so editing the toolbar
> ... It is specifically where tab and shift tab is overwritten
> ... If you tab into the text edit field, tab is going to insert a text
> cahracter
>
> JC; Using Ctrl+F5
>
> Joseph: It doesnt work for me
>
> JC: You have to enable all controls in keyboard shortcuts
>
> Joseph: F5 is set to do that, but it is nnit doing that
> ... In ARIA Best Oractices we have a way to do this
>
> JC: Compose a new message, try it there
>
> Joseph: Thunderbird might not
>
> JC: The purpose of this is we want an explicit event to that is like a
> focus change and a key for different navigation mechanisms with
> subsequent panels
> ... Maybe you could cycle through th toolbar. Like an implicit landmark
> like navigation
>
> Joseph: Yes, that is like a gui navigation
> ... I like that
>
> <richardschwerdtfeger> can you not hear me
>
> <richardschwerdtfeger> ?
>
> no
>
> RS: We have to deal with the lanmarks being nested
> ... and we fo this on the CK editor
> ... Ypu want to be able to go to the toolbar, I agree we need to ave
> some kind of mechanism to go to the toolbar. And we need to fins a way to do
> ... navigation,but remeber that it ma be nested
> ... What were you thinking James?
>
> <jcraig_> focus events, with particular token values like toolbar,
> panel, main,
>
> JC: Some of those could match up with landmarks
>
> <jcraig> focusRequest maybe
>
> <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/open
>
> <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
>
> issue-2?
>
> <trackbot> ISSUE-2 -- Rotate -- open
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/2
>
> jc: discussion taking place on list
>
> perhaps can combine pan, zoom, rotate to variants of a single event
>
> via x,x coordinate, rotation degree, scale factor on a single event with
> start, change, end
>
> so could be explict discrete event, or continuous event
>
> mc: need a proposal for what the event would look like
>
> <jcraig> My suggestion:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0037.html
>
> <jcraig> His reponse:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0038.html
>
> <scribe> *ACTION:* Rick to propose concrete feature for
> UIZoomRequestEvent thread
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0037.html
> (please assign action to Michael Cooper if you don´t want to accept this
> action) [recorded in
> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action02]
>
> <trackbot> Created ACTION-33 - Propose concrete feature for
> UIZoomRequestEvent thread
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0037.html
> (please assign action to Michael Cooper if you don´t want to accept this
> action) [on Rick Byers - due 2012-12-05].
>
> <clown> issue-3?
>
> <trackbot> ISSUE-3 -- SecondaryAction (aka "Context Menu") -- open
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/3
>
> can come back later
>
> issue-4?
>
> <trackbot> ISSUE-4 -- Vendor specific preferences keys -- open
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/4
>
> <scribe> *ACTION:* Lachlan to post his concerns on vendor specific keys
> and any information about how other groups addressing the issue
> [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action03]
>
> <trackbot> Created ACTION-34 - Post his concerns on vendor specific keys
> and any information about how other groups addressing the issue [on
> Lachlan Hunt - due 2012-12-05].
>
> issue-5?
>
> <trackbot> ISSUE-5 -- DOM event properties specification requires
> coordination with Web Apps WG -- open
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/5
>
> jc: to tackle after the properties in the spec
>
> issue-6?
>
> <trackbot> ISSUE-6 -- window.preferences extension to window object.
> Need to coordinate with Web Apps Working Group. -- open
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/6
>
> jc: to tackle after the properties in the spec
>
> issue-7?
>
> <trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- Discuss drag/drop with PF and HTML (need cut/copy
> markers and well as drop targets) -- open
>
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/7
>
> jc: should tackle after markRequest action completed
>
>
>     Summary of Action Items
>
> *[NEW]* *ACTION:* andy to send suggested text about implict vs explict
> user settings and sending preferences even if client doesn´t support
> [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action01]
> *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Lachlan to post his concerns on vendor specific keys
> and any information about how other groups addressing the issue
> [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action03]
> *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Rick to propose concrete feature for
> UIZoomRequestEvent thread
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0037.html
> (please assign action to Michael Cooper if you don´t want to accept this
> action) [recorded in
> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action02]
>
> [End of minutes]
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> $Date: 2012-11-28 19:02:53 $
>
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>
> Michael Cooper
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> World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative
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Cheers

andy
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