Re: Status of the CG

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> _______________________________________
> From: Cyril Concolato [cyril.concolato@telecom-paristech.fr]
> Sent: 30 October 2014 16:45
> To: public-inbandtracks@w3.org
> Subject: Status of the CG
>
> Dear all,
>
> During some offline discussions at TPAC, some questions were raised
> regarding this CG, in particular:
> 1) Giuseppe cannot be chair anymore, so we need a new chair(s)
> 2) what are the next steps for this CG.
>
> My thoughts are:
> 1) The description of CGs indicate that it shall have at least one chair
> but that it may have multiple chairs. There does not seem to be a formal
> process to decide who chairs a CG. I suggest that people who volunteer
> to chair the group do so on the list. Then depending on the number of
> candidates either we can either accept the 1 or 2 candidate(s) or cast a
> vote if there are 3 or more candidates. I don't expect that last option
> to happen though. I volunteer to chair this group if people are ok with
> that.
>
> [NM] If folk want this group to continue it really does need a chair.
> Otherwise we should face that it will stagnate.

The group has been quite productive without an active chair. I don't
think that the consequence that you're painting is a necessary
consequence.

However, I agree that the group should continue to exist while the
spec continues to be developed through this CG.

In fact, why has the topic of closing down this group even come up? I
am surprised about the suggestion of closing down the group - the bug
tracker has been enormously active and so has the development of the
spec.


> I'm happy for Cyril to chair
> - thanks for offering!
>
> 2) I think the work of this group is not done for several reasons:
> - in my mind the draft can be improved editorially and technically. I've
> started filing bugs and will continue.
>
> [NM] Agree - I don't consider myself an expert in all of the details of this
> group's output document, and more importantly all of the input formats, but
> my observations from the discussions I've seen suggest that a) there are
> technical issues that need to be resolved and b) there may be a need to
> escalate some issues up into HTML, especially if it is impossible to
> interpret the contents of media files without additional external context
> metadata.  Stopping now would result in a non-usable document.
>
> - we need to convince browser implementers to review and start
> implementing what the draft says. To do that, I think we should be
> adding use cases, for instance to the wiki.
>
> [NM] I'd like to see the use cases too. I'm pretty sure there are some, and
> in time the list will grow. There's a body of existing work from other
> groups not in W3C to integrate broadcast media playback with various
> flavours of HTML. It'd be great to head back in the other direction and meet
> up tidily rather than ending up with two (or more) incompatible worlds.
>
>
> So, I'm in favor of keeping this group active because:
> - it's always good to have a mailing list dedicated for discussions.
> Everything should not happen in bugs because people don't look at them.
> - The group has been presented in the Web&TV IG and many people seemed
> interested to join.
> - The Bugzilla only exists because the CG exists.
> - The FSA procedure to transfer the spec from the CG to a WG (to produce
> REC) needs the CG to exist.
>
> [NM] Is there a proposed WG charter to make this group's output doc a Rec?

This is not a WG, but a CG. A CG follows different processes - in
particular the FSA proces that Cyril mentioned.
We tried at one stage to get the HTML WG to pick up on the work being
done here, but weren't successful.
That should probably be discussed again.

It seems Cyril has a particularly strong interest in all of these
things and in pushing the spec forward. He doesn't need to be chair
for that, but it certainly can't hurt. I'd be supportive of Cyril
becoming chair.

Best Regards,
Silvia.


> [NM] Nigel
>
> Comments?
> Cyril
>
> --
> Cyril Concolato
> Multimedia Group / Telecom ParisTech
> http://concolato.wp.mines-telecom.fr/
> @cconcolato
>
>

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