Re: Where should CG work go?

On 3/9/14, 11:54 PM, "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
><silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Bob Lund <B.Lund@cablelabs.com> wrote:
>>> Hi CG,
>>>
>>> The Wiki table for video/audio track [1] defines how to determine
>>>'kind' for
>>> MPEG-2 TS video and audio streams. We can create similar tables for the
>>> other containers of interest: MP4 ISOBMFF, DASH, WebM and Ogg. The
>>>HTML CR
>>> has a table describing what the UA should return for video.kind and
>>> audio.kind [2]. So it would seem that we should add the examples for
>>>[1] to
>>> [2].
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>
>>> [1] also defines how to set the language and id attributes for MPEG-2
>>>TS
>>> (and other formats in the future). Should this information also be
>>>added to
>>> [2], perhaps in a similar table to what exists?
>>
>> Yes, I think the HTML spec should have similar tables as for the @kind
>> attribute also for @id, @language and @label for all the media formats
>> that UAs support. Note that some of that information is already
>> available on our wiki page
>> https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page but needs to
>> be formulated as a table (as you have done for "text kind table").
>>
>>
>>> The Wiki has a table for text tracks [3] and text track cue [4]
>>>creation.
>>> This could be added to the HTML5 spec in the text track section.
>>
>> Yes, I think those are good ideas.
>>
>>> What do you think about adding this information to the HTML
>>>recommendation?
>>> The alternative would be another recommendation that is referenced by
>>>the
>>> HTML rec. Thoughts?
>>
>> No, the HTML spec is the right place for it.
>>
>> I would recommend registering a bug for every section that needs
>> updating and every attribute.
>>
>> So, a bug each for:
>>
>> 
>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Audio_and_video_
>>kind_table
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Text_kind_table
>> (this needs updating with information from other formats)
>
>Oops, and of course one for
>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Exposing_a_Media_
>Resource_Specific_TextTrack
>.
>
>
>> 
>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Guidelines_for_c
>>reating_metadata_text_track_cues
>> (here, I would add a change to step 2 of the algorithm, too, to add a
>> table to explain how id, language and kind are determined)
>
>Note that this one is an interesting one, since FAIK we don't really
>have a use case for this right now (as noted in the other thread that
>I just replied to).

Do you mean use cases for adding the guideline for creating MPEG-2 TS text
track cues? If so, there are use cases being implemented for DLNA HTML5:
subtitles not rendered by the UA, region rating tables (parental
controls), enhanced TV signaling, ad insertion.

>
>Silvia.
>
>> If you want, I can help out with extending these tables before you
>> submit the bug.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Silvia.
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> 
>>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Audio_and_Video
>>>_Track_Creation
>>> [2]
>>> 
>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#audiotracklist-and-vi
>>>deotracklist-objects
>>> [3]
>>> 
>>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#TextTrack_Creat
>>>ion
>>> [4]
>>> 
>>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Text_Track_Cue_
>>>Creation
>>>

Received on Monday, 10 March 2014 15:58:40 UTC