- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 00:06:39 +0900
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Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS WG
30 May 2007
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0043.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
Andrzej, Christian, Felix, Jirka, Yves
Regrets
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action item
2. [6]reviewing of specs
3. [7]scheduling
4. [8]restructuring of BPs
5. [9]rework of the sections which talk about general
techniques
6. [10]f2f meeting
7. [11]BP discussion
8. [12]RELAX NG > DTD, RELAX NG > XML Schema conversion
9. [13]AOB
* [14]Summary of Action Items
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action item
felix: did not have time to do AIs
Christian: did an AI
<scribe> ACTION: Christian to rework 4.1 and 4.1.1 (ONGOING)
[recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
also Jirka's AIs pending
Yves: I did 3 AIs
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to talk to Philippe Rouquet about "ITS as ISO"
topic (DONE) [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
Yves: waiting for (indirect) feedback
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to contact Diane and to check her availability
for editing of the BP document (DONE) [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
Yves: waiting for reply
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to rework some BP according Christian
structure (DONE) [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
Yves: posted a mail about that
see
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0
039.html
[19]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0039.html
reviewing of specs
Yves: SPARQL, TMX, XLIFF, SRX
Felix: no need to review XQuery full text or WS Addressing
Yves: comments on TMX need to be sent by June first
... fine to send the comments by June 1st, integrating Christian's
possible further feedback?
RESOLUTION: WG agrees with sending the comments on TMX by June 1st,
integrating Christian's possible further feedback
scheduling
[20]http://www.w3.org/International/its/schedule.html
[20] http://www.w3.org/International/its/schedule.html
Felix proposes to look at BP (1-2) each week technically, and a meta
topic like restructuring
Felix wants to do the scheduling for the next weeks
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to do the scheduling for the next weeks of
BPs [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
Yves: some more work for the editors, but that's OK I hope
RESOLUTION: WG agrees with detailed scheduling of BP document
<YvesS>
[22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0
039.html
[22]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0039.html
restructuring of BPs
Yves: looked into no. 2,5,6
... the template had lot of breakdown and structure in it
... too many headings, not enough content
(Yves describes his mail)
<YvesS> [23]http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-i18n-bp/#DevDir
[23] http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-i18n-bp/#DevDir
[24]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
ml#DevDir
[24]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevDir
Christian: discussed at f2f that too many subheadings are not a good
idea
... the modified template and examples: we agreed to say that
examples should be close to their use, so no explicit example
section
Yves: one difference: reference to the data category, I tried to
resolve that
... e.g. BP 2: you have at the bottom the link to the tagset doc,
and a copy of the information from the ITS document in a separate
paragraph
Christian: just had a first look at the sample template, looks good
to me
Felix: +1
Yves: will need to look at each BP to have final restructering done
rework of the sections which talk about general techniques
<YvesS>
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0
040.html
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0040.html
Christian: reworked existing content and created content which we
intended to remove to the general section
(Christian describes the mail)
Felix: like "4.1.2 Consider Your Processing Environment". Useful to
make people aware of conformance as well, since this is related to
conformance
Christian: agree
... maybe we need a template on how to link to the tagset doc of
subsections in 4.1.x
... tagset doc or other documents
Felix: some concerns about being too detailed about XPath
... we can't write an XPath tutorial. Propose to have a general
section of issues with technology used by ITS
Christian: we had gathered some specific issues for XPath
... like efficiency of rules
Yves: need to work on this "4.1.4 Create your XPath Expressions with
Care" to see what has to be here
Felix: agreement
Andrzej: thanks Christian for this work on this!
<scribe> ACTION: Christian to make a proposal for "4.1.4 Create your
XPath Expressions with Care" [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
Yves: like the proposal on " Generic Knowledge"
f2f meeting
Yves: everybody is fine for the dates and venue, no response from
Sebastian yet
RESOLUTION: next f2f in Praha, hosted by Jirka, 10/02 till 10/04
BP discussion
<YvesS>
[27]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
ml#AuthInsText
[27]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthInsText
BP 21 "Ensure any inserted text is context-independent"
Andrzej: had a related discussion in DITA TC about acronym expansion
... there are issues of grammatical case esp. in inflected languages
... in some languages an acronym does not exist
... I can send my input I gave to DITA about the topic
Yves: yes, send the mail please
(Yves explains
[28]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
ml#AuthInsText)
[28]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthInsText)
Yves: propose to have an example how it works in the "How to do
this" part
Felix: which technique is used in practice? XLink and XInclude are
maybe not wide spread for this topic
... maybe we should have a "real life" example what is being done
Yves: we could have a binary example: things not to do, and a way to
fix it
Andrzej: will send in an example for conref
Jirka: an XInclude example would be good
<scribe> ACTION: everybody to look into creating examples for the
"How to do this" part of BP 21 [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
Felix: we will see what examples will be created, and use the best
one(s)
RELAX NG > DTD, RELAX NG > XML Schema conversion
Christian: XLIFF is thinking about providing a RELAX NG schema
... are there cases of not being able to convert RELAX NG > DTD,
RELAX NG > XML Schema?
Jirka: yes
Andrzej: most of the tools provide a means for conversion
Jirka: depends on how complex the schema is
... we produced a conversion tool, specific to DocBook
Felix: should the conversion be a one-time effort?
Christian: yes. But while the schema is under development, there
will be several conversions necessary
... RELAX NG will be just an additional schema
AOB
adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Christian to make a proposal for "4.1.4 Create your
XPath Expressions with Care" [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: everybody to look into creating examples for the "How
to do this" part of BP 21 [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to do the scheduling for the next weeks of BPs
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Christian to rework 4.1 and 4.1.1 [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to contact Diane and to check her availability
for editing of the BP document [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to rework some BP according Christian structure
[recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to talk to Philippe Rouquet about "ITS as ISO"
topic [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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