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Re: I18N ITS Teleconference Minutes 2007-05-23

From: Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@emi.ac.ma>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:12:37 +0000
Message-ID: <4654BC55.6000408@emi.ac.ma>
To: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
CC: 'Yves Savourel' <ysavourel@translate.com>, public-i18n-its@w3.org

Richard Ishida wrote:
>>> -19 [NEW]: Felix to ask Najib about correcet rendering of example 4 
>>> Done. Najib noted that we could just do like we did for the 
>>>       
>> example in the Rec document.
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>>>       
>> I joined on IRC, but may be it was too late. Sorry.
>>
>> In fact  my opinion is that (bidi) rendering shoudn't matter 
>> when you show source code. Not only it depends on the 
>> TexteEditor/AuthoringTool, but also on the user's preferences 
>> and setting. Unfortunatly, actually editing tools don't 
>> permit users to do such setting, e.g. override bidi rendering 
>> with rtl+ltr  texts in source mode.
>> But this is another issue.
>>
>> Najib
>>     
>
> See also http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-bidi.html#d2e277
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> RI
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>   
Even worse.  The source code rendering depends on browsers / editor / 
display program.
Here is the same example the reference above,

In memory (Uppercase is ARABIC): <p title="ATTRIBUTE">CONTENT</p>

Firefox view-source as :
  <p title="TNETNOC<"ETUBIRTTA</p>
same with Opera, Safari and Xcode editor. So does Unix cat command.


Now with a new line before content,
  <p title="ATTRIBUTE">
  CONTENT</p>
diffrences between tools are greater.

Firefox:
  <p title="<"ETUBIRTTA
  TNETNOC</p>

Opera:
  <p title="ETUBIRTTA">
  TNETNOC</p>

(see the difference ="<" in the first line of code)


Now, with Safari, Xcode, Unix cat, the first line is OK. But the second 
line differ from Firefox and Opera <p/> at the beginning vs </p> at the end.

Safari:
  <p title="ETUBIRTTA">
  <p/>TNETNOC

Xcode:
  <p title="ETUBIRTTA">
  <p/>TNETNOC

Unix cat:
  <p title="ETUBIRTTA">
  <p/>TNETNOC

Is it because of my MacOS, that these three last example are displayed 
the same?


Najib
Received on Wednesday, 23 May 2007 22:12:46 GMT

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