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Re: Minutes 2005-10-05: ITS teleconference

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:23:58 +0900
To: "Yves Savourel" <ysavourel@translate.com>, public-i18n-its@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.sx9ip8r8x1753t@ibm-60d333fc0ec.mag.keio.ac.jp>

Hi all,

>
> - FS to ask W3C if there is a methodology for mapping existing / under  
> development.

I did that in a recent mail.

> [PENDING]
>
> - FS to check inheritance for xml:lang (as part of his work on a wiki on  
> xml:lang for the i18n core WG)

Do I have to need more than described in  
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#sec-lang-tag? IT says that the attribute  
specifies the language used in the contents and attribute values of any  
element in an XML document. And: "The intent declared with xml:lang is  
considered to apply to all attributes and content of the element where it  
is specified, unless overridden with an instance of xml:lang on another  
element within that content."

> [PENDING]
>
> - FS to make proposals by mail for a shortcut for the namespace of the  
> ITS specification Working Draft.
> [PENDING]

proposal: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/its

>
>
> Discussion
> ==========
>
> - We discussed the Scoping issue  
> <http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0509SpecScoping>. CL noted that using an  
> Xpath-based system would solve
> addressing the attributes. YS pointed out that XPath could lead to  
> complicated expressions referring to parts outside the elements
> where the ITS information would be. CL mentioned the possibility to  
> restrict the XPath expressions allowed.

A reasonable restriction would be the pattern of xslt (I added this  
comment also to the scope req wiki.

> CL to post more notes on
> the wiki, YS to summarize on email to generate discussion.
> CL also noted that other standards (e.g. in OASIS) may run into the same  
> issues. How do they address it? YS noted that maybe XSL-FO
> could be a good place to look.

To look for what?

>
> - We discussed the Extensibility issue  
> <http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0509SpecExtensibility>. CL summarized the  
> decision we had to
> make: do we want to allow extensibility. If yes, to what document's  
> parts would we  allow it?
> CL also noted that he would look in UBL about the issue.
>
>
> Other Business
> ==============
>
> - We briefly discuss the F2F meeting. RI posted a note about the  
> possibilities near Oxford
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2005OctDec/0004.html>
>
> CL mentioned that the SAP standard group would be willing to sponsor  
> another F2F, and noted that some are asking when we will have
> some material ready.

As I said in a mail before: Let's publish a first wd within October. I  
propose for the next teleconf a topic whether we should commit ourself to  
this goal, so that people like CL can give a goal to their managment -  
that they allow them to participate in the working group longer ;)

Best,

Felix

> YS noted that we are more or less on schedule so far. YS will ask RI for  
> template on the Techniques pages.
>
> - Next teleconference is Oct-12, same time, same channel.
>
>
> ACTION ITEMS for next week
> ==========================
>
> - [PENDING] CL to use ODD to specify the indicator of translatability  
> implementation. (Waiting for progress on the ODD conversion
> (FS+SR)).
>
> - [PENDING] FS to ask W3C if there is a methodology for mapping existing  
> / under development.
>
> - [PENDING] FS to check inheritance for xml:lang (as part of his work on  
> a wiki on xml:lang for the i18n core WG)
>
> - [PENDING] FS to make proposals by mail for a shortcut for the  
> namespace of the ITS specification Working Draft.
>
> - [PENDING] SR to introduce to the working group the l10n / i18n aspects  
> of the TEI.
>
> - [PENDING] SR to put a comment on  
> http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0509ReqNestedElements in the wiki.
>
> - [PENDING] YS to list possible constraints and values for them.
>
> - [NEW] YS to ask RI for techniques template.
>
> - [NEW] CL to post more notes on Scoping.
>
>
> Cheers,
> -yves
>
>
>
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