[1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ I18n ITS Working Group 13 Jul 2005 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-irc Attendees Present Yves, Richard, Karunesh, Tim, Diane, Felix Regrets Masaki, Andrzej, Christian Chair YveS Scribe Felix Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]welcome to Karunesh! 2. [5]action items 3. [6]hello to Karunesh! (part 2) 4. [7]http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/ 5. [8]requirements 6. [9]other business - f2f 7. [10]next telecon * [11]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________________ welcome to Karunesh! Karunesh introduces himself please call again karunesh. action items ACTION: richard to contact person from w3c about feedback from non-wg members (PENDING) [recorded in [12]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action01] ACTION: felix to contact person from atom (PENDING) [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action02] hello to Karunesh! (part 2) (Karunseh introduces himself) already done felix ACTION: tim to work on span like req (DONE) [recorded in [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action03] [15]http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0503ReqSpan [15] http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0503ReqSpan tim: quite a lot of relations to other requirements ... if you have time, look if that is appropriate ... idea of having a button what has some translatability characteristics ... just a possible example felix, W3C IRC Web Client : [16]http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc [16] http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc IRC channel : #i18n on irc.w3.org:6665 Yves: any other comments? tim: fixed the notation problem and responded to felix' commments Yves: we can include that into wd soon ACTION: Yves and felix to work on the wd [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action04] [18]http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/ [18] http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/ yves: we not to talk about some things in the wd ... in the abstract: should we talk about i18n? ri: agrees. yves: how about "that meets the needs of the localization community and internationalization"? tim: it's not just for localizers, also content authors etc. t is important to include constructs that meet the needs of content authors dealing with international audiences and localization... ri: just pasted a phrase yves: all are happy with RI's suggestion ... another question: namespace of its ... do we need to define now a namespace uri? ... ri, do you think a uri is relevant now? ri: now ... if we refer to it in the document, we have to be careful ... we need to talk about this in a longer period of time yves: we discussed that as we talked about prefixes ... in the example it would be consistent to show nothing (?) ... have a paragraph at the beginning of the wd which says that the namespace uri and prefix is not stable? ... will create such a paragraph ... another concern from felix: how about versions? ... now it is its req 1.0 ... what will happen if the wd becomes a note? ri: versioning might be complicated ... mih ... might be better not to say "1.0" at all yves: will remove version number ... another question from felix: ... handling of entities reqs [19]http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/#entities [19] http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/#entities scribe: link was broken XML applications (i.e. a combination of DTD/XSD, style-sheets, XML instances) often make use of so-called general entities, see XML Physical Structure ([XML], section 4). Various usages of general entities exist [I don't know an appropriate link, but maybe we don't need a link here, because this is an informative statement.] scribe: I just pasted the paragraph felix proposed as a new version without a link ... have not found the article cl used ri: to be able to publish, we have to point to links that work ... with links which not work, you cannot publish ACTION: cl to find the article [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action05] Just found the link (sort of) [21]http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://tech.irt.org/articles/js212/#i ntro [21] http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://tech.irt.org/articles/js212/#intro yves: need to delete the link until cl finds it again ... found another issue, in the entity section ... example of entities that has been changed ... just looking for the number of the example ... try to fix the passage example with a product name? yves: try to comment with something different example number 3 in section 3.5.1 I think yves: any other concern about the document? felix: no yves: should we try to have a vote next week? ri: yes. we should have a link from the hp. yves: do we need a member directory? ri: no, you just need the attribute role="editor-copy" the stylesheet does that for you editors-copy ACTION: felix to do further corrections on the document [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action06] ri: there should not be a date on the document ... we should change that right away yves: we will change that right away for the date, just put dd mmm 2005 requirements [23]http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0504ReqPurposeSpecMap [23] http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0504ReqPurposeSpecMap yves: this is quite close to wd ... last modification cl made was about comments from felix ... asked cl to have a summary at the top tim: a question ... will the list of items that can be mapped be extensible? ... the purpose of this req is to allow to translate xml schemas ... e.g. code is the same as programlisting (cf. xhtml versus docbook) yves: we would have some kind of its correspondends ... other people could specify other items to be mapped tim: o.k., then I agree with the current text other business - f2f ACTION: all to sent ideas for the agenda within two weeks [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action07] [25]http://www.w3.org/International/its/ftf-200509-Sophia.html [25] http://www.w3.org/International/its/ftf-200509-Sophia.html other business? next telecon next week, same time Karunesh: this time is ok Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: all to sent ideas for the agenda within two weeks [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: cl to find the article [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: felix to do further corrections on the document [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: Yves and felix to work on the wd [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: felix to contact person from atom [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: richard to contact person from w3c about feedback from non-wg members [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action01] [DONE] ACTION: tim to work on span like req [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action03] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [33]scribe.perl version 1.126 ([34]CVS log) $Date: 2005/07/13 15:26:37 $ [33] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [34] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/