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Re: [ESW Wiki] Update of "its0509ReqNestedElements" by YvesSavourel

From: Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 06:36:51 +0900
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It's good to know about this problem. But it should be made very clear
this this is a problem with localization tools (hopefully to be fixed as
soon as possible) rather than a problem with the markup.

Regards,   Martin.

At 09:49 05/09/07, w3t-archive+esw-wiki@w3.org wrote:
 >Dear Wiki user,
 >You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "ESW Wiki" for
 >change notification.
 >The following page has been changed by YvesSavourel:
 >  '''[http://www.w3.org/International/geo/2004/article-devt-process.html
 >Status: Initial Draft]'''
 >  ie. please focus on technical content, rather than wordsmithing at this stage.
 >+ Author: Yves Savourel
 >+ = Nested Elements =
 >+ == Summary ==
 >+ [R022] Great care must be taken when defining or using nested
 >translatable elements.
 >+ == Challenges ==
 >+ An XML can allow the recursive nesting of the same elements. In some
 >cases such structure is detrimental to the localization process as it
 >creates problems when segmenting or extracting the text.
 >+ An example, the <footnote> in OpenOffice documents:
 >+ A {{{<text:p>}}} element can contain a {{{<text:footnote>}}} element. The
 >{{{<text:footnote>}}} includes a {{{<text:footnote-body>}}} element, which
 >in turn, can also contain a {{{<text:p>}}} element. This may lead to
 >situation where one or more paragraphs are embedded within each other.
 >+ {{{<text:p text:style-name="Text body">Donec leo massa, porttitor non,
 >laoreet et, tincidunt nec,
 >+ turpis<text:footnote
 >+ text:style-name="Footnote">Here comes the first footnote's
 >+ Morbi ultricies imperdiet erat<text:footnote

 >+ text:style-name="Footnote">Here comes the second footnote's
 >text.</text:p></text:footnote-body></text:footnote>. Nam
 >+ aliquam, magna eget eleifend varius, orci quam condimentum enim, in
 >consectetuer neque purus a massa. Mauris
 >+ gravida felis et neque. Nullam tristique arcu sed nulla.</text:p>}}}
 >+ Having two {{{<text:p>}}} elements withing a parent {{{<text:p>}}}
 >element makes processing of the data difficult. For example it is more
 >difficult, for most localization tools, to decide if {{{<text:p>}}} should
 >be treated as inline code or not.
 >+ == Quick Guidelines ==
 >+ Do not allow the definition of a reference inside the structure where
 >it's referenced. In other words, {{{</text:footnote-body>}}} should be
 >outside {{{<text:p>}}}.
Received on Wednesday, 7 September 2005 21:39:30 UTC

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