Re: [xliff] Clarification needed for annotatorsRef

Yves, Felix, all,

I have created a csprd03 issue from this as this has a potential to cause
changes in our validation, and hence material normative changes.
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/XLIFF-52

You can continue the discussion on this thread
http://markmail.org/thread/bxgzh5oalbqpf4h7
or comment directly on the issue
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/XLIFF-52

It would be great if we could agree in today's meeting what is the
preferable interpretation.

I would be in favor of the white space interpretation, but would not be
strongly opposed to the strict ( U+0020) interpretation.

Cheers
dF




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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote:

> I’m not necessarily thinking U+0020 is the better choice (it would prevent
> any kind of wrapping).
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> Yves Savourel
> Localization Solutions Architect | t: 303.951.4523 <(303)%20951-4523> | f:
> 303.516.1701 <(303)%20516-1701> | ENLASO®
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> *From:* Felix Sasaki [mailto:felix@sasakiatcf.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 AM
> *To:* Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
> *Cc:* public-i18n-its-ig <public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org>; XLIFF Main List <
> xliff@lists.oasis-open.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [xliff] Clarification needed for annotatorsRef
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> Hi Yves, all,
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> my XSLT implementation does not do Validation of the annotatorsRef
> attribute. The implementation processes annotatorsRef per data category and
> takes the inheritance of annotatorsRef into account, that is it. So I did
> not run into the problem. But the suggestion
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> “ascii-U+0020-space-separated”
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> sounds good to me.
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> Cheers,
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> Felix
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> 2017-05-13 14:04 GMT+02:00 Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>:
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> Hi all,
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> While looking at the ITS module for XLIFF, a question came up with regards
> to how the annotatorsRef value is specified.
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> The Schematron rule for ITS assumes the “space-separated” in the
> definition of the annotatorsRef value means “whitespace-separated”. But the
> text is not specific (See https://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#its-tool-annotation:
> “The value of annotatorsRef is a space-separated list of references where
> each reference is composed of two parts: a data category identifier and an
> IRI. These two parts are separated by a | VERTICAL LINE (U+007C) character”)
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> The current Okapi implementation of the ITS processor assumes just
> “ascii-U+0020-space-separated” and since none of the files in the ITS2.0
> test suite tests this, we have not run into the question so far.
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> The change would be easy enough to make but I wanted to know what other
> implementations are doing.
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> Thanks,
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> -yves
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> *From:* xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Yves Savourel
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 13, 2017 5:24 AM
> *To:* 'XLIFF Main List' <xliff@lists.oasis-open.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [xliff] Invalid ist:annotatorsRef in example
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> Actually this means the formatted example 23 in the ITS spec incorrect as
> well:
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> In the printout https://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-its20-20131029/#its-tool-
> annotation
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> And in the file itself: https://www.w3.org/TR/2013/
> REC-its20-20131029/examples/xml/EX-its-tool-annotation-2.xml
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> It is strange that the ITS validator didn’t catch the issue.
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> Maybe this rule is incorrect?
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> <assert test="every $ref in tokenize(@its:annotatorsRef, '\s+') satisfies
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>         matches($ref, '
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>         (translate|localization-note|terminology|directionality|
> language-information|
>
>         elements-within-text|domain|text-analysis|locale-filter|
> provenance|external-resource|
>
>         target-pointer|id-value|preserve-space|localization-
> quality-issue|localization-quality-rating|
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>         mt-confidence|allowed-characters|storage-size)\|.+')">
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>         The value of annotatorsRef is a space-separated list of references
> where
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>         each reference is composed of two parts: a data category
> identifier and an IRI.
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>         These two parts are separated by a character | VERTICAL LINE
> (U+007C).</assert>
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> Shouldn’t the “storage-size)\|.+'” part disallow white-space after ‘|’?
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> Or should we allow white-space on the right side of the ‘|’? (which does
> not seem to be correct based on the text describing the value).
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> *From:* xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
> <xliff@lists.oasis-open.org>] *On Behalf Of *Yves Savourel
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 13, 2017 5:07 AM
> *To:* XLIFF Main List <xliff@lists.oasis-open.org>
> *Subject:* [xliff] Invalid ist:annotatorsRef in example
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> In the big example of section 5.9.13, I think there are several
> annotatorsRef values that are invalid.
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> For example:
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> <file id="f1" its:annotatorsRef="allowed-characters|
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>       http://example.com/myAllowedCharactersAnnotationTool terminology|
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>       http://example.com/mytermTool localization-quality-issue|
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>       http://example.com/anotherQualityChecker">
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> Is wrapped after the “|” but since space is the separator for references
> that breaks the reference (and creates empty ones).
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> The valid wrapped notation would be:
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> <file id="f1" its:annotatorsRef="allowed-characters|http://example.com/
> myAllowedCharactersAnnotationTool
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>       terminology|http://example.com/mytermTool
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>       localization-quality-issue|http://example.com/anotherQualityChecker
> ">
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> Cheers,
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> -yves
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> Yves Savourel
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