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Re: ITS as a microformat (proposal)

From: Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:38:23 +0200
Message-ID: <4A4B82EF.5060501@kosek.cz>
To: Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de>
CC: public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org
Felix Sasaki wrote:

>> 1) It will became visible part of document (and although it can be make
>> unvisible in CSS, it will confuse search engines and other agents
>> operating only on markup).
> 
> 
> Isn't that the same problem with other  microformats, e.g. hcard?

I don't think so. You usually want to see contact information visible on
page but at the same time marked up by uF to allow easier machine
processing.

> Not sure ... though I do not see the difference to the use case of shipping
> "native" ITS rules in a seperate document - is there a difference? Or are
> you saying that that is also no use case and users do not need to create
> also native ITS rules for HTML?

I personally do not have usecase, but I use HTML only as delivery
format. For people who use HTML as primary content storage there might
be story though.

>> But it is definitively worth to create uF for local ITS data categories.
> 
> Yes - do you have any input on the problems I mentioned at "open questions"
> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dch8cn8g_20hrxhkmd8
> ?

uF are generally ugly compared to native XML. But instead of

<a href="someLinke" its:term="yes"
its:termInfoRef="referenceToTermdefinition">...</a>

you can use something like

<a href="someLinke" class="term">
  <a href="referenceToTermdefinition" class="termInfoRef"></a>
  ...
</a>

The problem is that this is invalid in HTML, AFAIK <a> element couldn't
be nested.

Re your second point I think that validation can be carried on by
Schematron quite effectively.

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