- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:48:41 +0900
- To: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Cc: 'GEO' <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>
Hi Richard, Here are some more comments - on the "css3 international text" tutorial. - General: You might add a short note somewhere on how the CSS efforts are related to SVG or XSL-FO, because the unexperienced user might wander which one to use for what purpose. - "Key parameters here are the block-progression direction" -> "Key properties here are the block-progression direction" - "glyph-orientation-vertical and glyph-orientation-horizontal properties can be used to control whether the Latin letters in vertical Japanese": Can these properties only be used for Japanese, or are there other - possibly useful - applications? - "On this slide we see the effect of applying one type of grid layout to the text on the previous slide.": Which type? - "boten marks": the Japanese writing says 傍点（ぼうてん）、I don't know if you want to express this as "bouten" or "bo¯ten". - "For example, the specification says that it is common to place pinyin annotations ..." You should introduce pinyin shortly, i.e. "pinyin annotations (Chinese pronunciation annotations) ...". - I'm still not sure about the 浮世絵昔話example. Here are some numbers of Google-hits: 浮世絵227.000 昔話838.000 浮世絵 昔話974 "浮世絵昔話"0 The combination of the two words seems to be really uncommen, so maybe you think about another example, especially the Japanese audiance might be confused about 浮世絵昔話. How about. 浮世絵 版画 (うきよえ はんが ukiyoe hanga), that's "art print of ukiyoe". - "A significant amount of specification work benefitted from the Japanese JIS 4051 specification": You might add s.t. like "which is a Japanese standard for styling properties of Japanese text" That's it. Best regards, Felix. Richard Ishida wrote: >Hi Felix, > >Thanks for the comments ! > > > >>From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] >>Sent: 28 April 2005 03:18 >> >> >... > > >>- You might want to refer to similar, yet not identical >>concepts, which some people might be familiar with: >>linguistic glossing [1] and linguistic annotation [2] >> >> > >done > > > >>- The slide text link [3] does not work. >> >> > >known - I do this last > > > >>- Slide 5: "It is also occasionally used to convey >>information about meaning." Give an example, e.g. meaning of >>ideographic characters. >> >> > >done > > > >>- Slide 5: "Although ruby in Japanese is typically in >>hiragana" I would replacy typically with "often", there are >>still many cases of Katakana, e.g. in Japanese Manga. >> >> > >done > > > >>- Slide 6: "It can be used as an annotation device for many >>different applications." Give examples, like linguistic (e.g. >>morphological) glossing (see above). >> >> > >done > > > >>- Slide 6: "And in Japanese, ruby is not limited to hiragana >>script. " >>You said that before. >> >> > >changed > > > >>- "There are two aspects to dealing with ruby text: the first >>is to provide semantic markup that relates the ruby and its >>base text;" I would say "There are two aspects to dealing >>with ruby text: the first is to provide additional >>information to its base text;", because semantic is closley >>related to meaning. >> >> > >changed > > > >>- "In this section we look at expressing the structure using markup." >>What do you mean by structure? Structure of the Ruby markup? >>-> "In this section we look at the structure of Ruby markup" >> >> > >changed > > > >>- General: It would be nice to know what the examples mean, e.g. >>"kamishibai - presentation", "Hayashi Kazuyo" (Japanese name, >>important topic for Ruby, because of the low degree of >>conventionalization for their pronunciation). >> >> > >maybe another day ;-) > > > >>- "The Ruby Annotation specification" -> "W3C Recommendation >>Ruby Annotation" >> >> > >hmm - didn't understand the issue here > > > >>- 浮世絵昔話 sounds like a strange combination to me; either 浮世絵 or >>昔話, but maybe you know better. >> >> > >added a note > > > >>- Section on Ruby style: It would be nice to have one - just >>one - code example of markup and CSS. >> >> > >yes - was in the original plans - just haven't had time, yet > > > >>- "The work being undertaken by the Internationalized Tag Set >>(ITS) Working Group <http://www.w3.org/International/its/> at >>the W3C to produce a set of tags ..." -> "The work being >>undertaken by the Internationalized Tag Set (ITS) Working >>Group <http://www.w3.org/International/its/> at the W3C to >>produce a markup vocabulary ..." >> >> > >done > > > >>Best regards, Felix >> >>[1] http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/files/morpheme.html >>[2] http://www.ldc.upenn.edu/annotation/ >>[3] >>http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/ruby/en/text/Slide0010.txt >> >>Richard Ishida wrote: >> >> >> >>>In preparation (still) for the WWW2005 tutorial day I have >>> >>> >>(finally) >> >> >>>produced another tutorial entitled: >>> >>>Ruby Markup and Styling >>>http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/ruby/ >>> >>>Comments can be sent. >>>I haven't added the text views yet. I plan to review the >>> >>> >>wording again >> >> >>>next week. >>> >>>Cheers, >>>RI >>> >>> >>>============ >>>Richard Ishida >>>W3C >>> >>>contact info: >>>http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ >>> >>>W3C Internationalization: >>>http://www.w3.org/International/ >>> >>>Publication blog: >>>http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >
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