Re: XHTML 2.0 review

Richard Ishida wrote:

>Hi Najib,
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Najib Tounsi [mailto:ntounsi@emi.ac.ma] 
>>Sent: 03 November 2004 14:56
>>To: Richard Ishida
>>Cc: i18n IG; GEO
>>Subject: Re: XHTML 2.0 review
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>>About the review, why not to seize this opportunity to 
>>mention the problem of bidi texts in the title elements [1] 
>>(as well as for title or alt attributes)?
>>To display correctly in browsers, bidi texts, i.e. ar/he 
>>mixed with latin, might be surrounded by the pair of Unicode  
>>control characters 
>>U+202B (RLE) and U+202C (PDF)  to force the RTL 
>>directionnality to apply
>>for titles. The corresponding XHTML entities are &x202B; and 
>>&x2020C; Could we suggest to XHTML2.0 to add this, for 
>>example as a trick, to avoid the problem?
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>Thanks for bringing this up.  I'm not sure the XHTML guys will want to specify *how* this is achieved, leaving that for implementations, 
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I meant  XHTML authoring, not implementation.

>but it may be appropriate to describe the expected behaviour.
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Yes. At least.

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>>BTW, the example in "15.1.3. 15.1.1. Inheritance of text 
>>direction information" [2] says:
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>><html dir="rtl">
>><head>
>><title>/...a right-to-left title.../</title>         (*)
>></head>
>>/...right-to-left text...                           (**/)
>><p dir="ltr">/...left-to-right text.../</p>
>><p>/...right-to-left text again.../</p>              
>></html>
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>>The "right-to-left-ness" in (*) is not always the same as in (**)
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>Do you mean because you can't add markup to the title element?  
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What I mean is, the example given there suggests that there will be no 
difference between  "...a right-to-left title..." and "...right-to-left 
text..." if the title and the text are the same. Which is not true. At 
least, it's my understanding of  the example.

>(Note that in XHTML 2 you will be able to (since we asked for it)).
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>>Regards,
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>>Najib
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>>[1] http://www.w3.org/International/tests/sec-bidi-misc-1
>>[2] 
>>http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xhtml2-20040722/mod-bidi.html#sec_15.1.1.
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>>Richard Ishida wrote:
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>>>I have created a new table containing the points we will put 
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>>forward as 
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>>>a group, edited to reflect our discussions during the 
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>>telecon (as far 
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>>>as point 21). See 
>>>http://www.w3.org/International/2004/10/xhtml2-i18n-review
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>>>RI
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>>--
>>Najib TOUNSI (mailto:tounsi@w3.org)
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Received on Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:59:15 UTC