- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:37:25 +0100
- To: <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>
Present: Richard, Martin, Phil, Deborah, Russ, Tex Regrets: none Meetings New time for telecon as follows, starting next week. Still held on Wednesday (Thursday in Australia). London Wed 7:00 PM Seattle Wed 11:00 AM Provo Wed 12noon Boston Wed 2:00 PM Grenoble Wed 8pm Melbourne Thu 6:00 AM Info Share Tex: The next call for participation in the Internationalizatoin & Unicode Conference is out - please send in proposals Martin's FAQ We made some comments on Martin's draft http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-validator-charset-check.htm l - we'll publish tomorrow morning ACTION: RI, develop a style guide for FAQs and augment stylesheet (esp. use nowrap for keywords) Future FAQs Richard will create an FAQ from the Hints & Tips section fo the website for next week. 2 weeks from now PHIL will publish an FAQ with the approximate title of "How do I configure my editing tool to use a particular encoding ?" People will contribute information as follows: Dreamweaver: Phil Adobe GoLive: Phil Frontpage: Russ IBM HomeSite: Deborah Notepad: Amaya: MD Xmetal: RI 3 weeks from now DEBORAH and TEX will publish an FAQ about the UTF-8 signature (what it is, problems it can cause, how to get rid of it, etc.) A possible future FAQ could treat why certain encodings should be avoided, and what the difference between ISO and Windows encodings FAQs and RSS The FAQs are now available as an RSS feed http://www.w3.org/International/questions.rss We should try to identify people who are interested in picking up this feed and alert them to it. Guidelines Comments We have a number of comments after the 1st WD was released - we need to ensure that everyone sees those comments, since some went to the www-i18n-comments@w3.org list (the archive is publicly visible at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/) Charset Declaration We discussed the first technique in section 3.2 http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/#ri20030218.131104811 which involved a discussion about transcoding by servers. We agreed in principle that we should recommend that people should NOT declare the encoding using the HTTP header, but rely instead on declarations inside the document. This is because of the difficultly the average content developer has in managing the server information and because it carries a stronger likelihood of being correct if the encoding is changed from time to time. However, where a document is transcoded the server should send the charset info in the HTTP header - this will override the in-document declaration. There may be exceptional cases, such as Tim Bray's site, where he only uses server settings because he has complete control over his pages and environment. We need to get more feedback on the list and from other people about how prevalent transcoding is these days, and who does it. ACTION: Tex, look at Google's cache to see how that works vis a vis transcoding Use of Mailing Lists www-international@w3.org We should all use this as much as possible for any technical discussions that are not member confidential, rather than hold the discussion on public-i18n-geo list. This is beneficial because (a) it opens up opportunities for additional contributions (there are nearly 400 people on the list), and (b) it provides an outreach and education opportunity for others on that list. public-i18n-geo@w3.org This should be used for GEO admin (such as this note). It can also be used for group-restricted review of FAQs, guidelines submissions, etc. if the person submitting the information prefers. It should NOT be used for discussions that are not related to GEO deliverables (FAQs, guidelines, articles, etc.). General technical discussions should use www-international. w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org The possibility exists to use this for member confidential discussions - eg. discussions about specification details that are not yet in the public domain. Not everyone is currently subscribed to this list, but some may not want to be subscribed since the list carries a lot of non-GEO related information. We will defer a decision about how to deal with member confidential information until such time as it becomes necessary. ACTIONS ==================================== ACTION: Tex, look at Google's cache to see how that works vis a vis transcoding ACTION: RI, develop a style guide for FAQs and augment stylesheet (esp. use nowrap for keywords) ACTION: RI, publish FAQ on Document Character Set DONE Action: ac, write to public evangelist list about default charset declaration in Apache ACTION: Lloyd, write up some code samples relating to date formats and link to them from the Q&A page at a later date All: send in pointers to existing guidelines UPCOMING Q&A ASSIGNMENTS ------------------------------------------------------ Send to group Publish (latest) Richard 26 oct 30 oct tbd Phil 26 oct 6 nov setting encoding in tools Deborah/Tex 3 nov 13 nov utf-8 signature ============ Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ http://www.w3.org/International/ http://www.w3.org/International/geo/ See the W3C Internationalization FAQ page http://www.w3.org/International/questions.html
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