Re: when to use language negotiation- author needed

Yes, I had heard that too and had started to mention it in my comments
and then removed it because identifying
a users location by ip address isn't that reliable. For example, workers
for large companies often connect from anywhere in the world to the
corporate network and then all of their outgoing net requests look to
the rest of the world as if they came from a single client ip address,
which is a proxy for all the companies users.

There are other problems as well.

But maybe google or other search engines use the approach coupled with
other techniques...

I don't know verifia, I'll give it a look. thanks
tex


John Yunker wrote:
> 
> Tex,
> 
> I believe that Google is using both content negotiation plus some
> method of IP address identification. I know of company that has
> commercialized the service, though I'm not sure how Google goes about
> doing it.
> 
> Here's the company: http://www.verifia.com
> 
> On Dec 19, 2003, at 3:40 PM, Tex Texin wrote:
> 
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Good comments.
> >
> > 1) On deep linking from search engines and elsewhere, I would think
> > that
> > most of the time the search would result in a page that was in one of
> > the languages of the user. I know it is not always true, but I wouldn't
> > think using lang. negotiation would be an improvement most of the time
> > for a deep link.
> >
> > But that's a good use case for language selection being available on
> > every page and for it not to return to the top of the tree, but a
> > reasonable counterpart of the page the language switch is being made
> > from.
> >
> > 2) I don't know the answer to the question on htaccess for changing
> > language directories rather than pages.
> > I had the same question.
> >
> > 3) Google must use cookies to remember information from past searches,
> > especially your location and things like that. Too many of the searches
> > I do show up local companies and reasonable matches, even when I don't
> > provide that many keywords. You would think a search for a chinese
> > restaurant name would give you places randomly around the world rather
> > than American or Massachusetts places being most highly ranked. (Of
> > course the dominance of american internet helps there.) I guess I'll
> > have to do a few searches, then delete all my cookies to test it.
> >
> >
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