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RE: hyphenation character data

From: Phillips, Addison <addison@lab126.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:43:47 -0700
To: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
CC: "'WWW International'" <www-international@w3.org>, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
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Presumably it is to inform this bit of text:



Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect (Lab126)
Chair (W3C I18N WG)

Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org [mailto:public-i18n-core-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Bjoern Hoehrmann
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:12 PM
> To: fantasai
> Cc: 'WWW International'; public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: Re: hyphenation character data
> * fantasai wrote:
> >Are there any resources that CSS can point to for indicating the
> >appropriate hyphenation character for a particular language?
> Appropriate is what the author specifies, XSL FO for instance allows authors to
> specify the character to use. If I had to find a formal reference for German, I
> would probably check DIN 5008, but you quite quickly run into ironic situations
> like the german Wikipedia article on the matter saying U+2010 is the right
> character but actually using
> U+002D in the example for hyphenation in line wrapping. I am sure you
> would run into annoyed authors if browsers used U+2010 where authors would
> find U+002D more appropriate, or vice versa, starting with me.
> I also note that "appropriate" depends on, for instance, whether the character
> is widely available and available in a suitable font, so you don't get strange
> rendering due to font substitution. It does not seem that there is a site that
> discusses this in great detail. My im- pression also was that typographical
> conventions differed beyond the choice of character, like in whether you put
> the character at the end of the previous line or at the beginning of the next, but
> I could not immediately find a reference so I might be misremembering or this
> may no longer be true for in-use systems.
> Could you clarify whether the CSS Working Group means to make this not
> author-configurable, is just looking for good defaults, or maybe just some
> helpful tutorial-like documentation?
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