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FW: Should the UTF-8 BOM trump overriding via HTTP or by users?

From: Phillips, Addison <addison@lab126.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:56:49 -0700
To: "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
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FYI...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-international-request@w3.org [mailto:www-international-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Leif Halvard Silli
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:26 PM
> To: www-international
> Subject: Should the UTF-8 BOM trump overriding via HTTP or by users?
> 
> I'm interested in the www-internatonal's input on bug 12897, which has been
> filed agianst HTML5. [1]
> 
> That bug says that the UTF-8 BOM should trump "attempts" to override the
> document encoding via either HTTP or by the user. Failing to do ignore such
> "attempts", will bring the page into quirks-mode (for HTML) or yellow screan of
> death, for XML.
> 
> Per my reading of XML 1.0, in precence of external encoding info which
> conflicts with the internal encoding info as provided by either BOM or encoding
> declaration, then the parser should, quote "In the interests of interoperability",
> adhere to the BOM or the XML encoding declaration. [2]
> 
> I have explaned my reading of XML 1.0 in a Mozilla bug. [3] (I don't know what
> the XML working group meant, so it is just "just" my reading.)
> 
> The crux of the matter is that IE and Webkit behave as bug 12897 behave.
> Whereas Firefox and Opera do not. IE and Webkit even *prevents* user to
> change the encoding whenever the encoding is UTF-8 and has a BOM. If they
> did not, then they would have allowed users to set page in quirks-mode and/or
> trigger yellow screen of death. The IE/Wenbkit behaviour thus makes sense.
> 
> I have also a test page where the different behaviour can be tested, and which I
> recommend you to test, even if you disagree with my reading of the spec
> and/or of the facts. [4]
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12897

> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#sec-guessing-with-ext-info

> [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238694#c9

> [4] http://malform.no/testing/html5/bom/

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> Leif Halvard Sillil
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