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Re: New article draft: Personal names around the world

From: Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de>
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 09:45:29 +0200
Message-ID: <BANLkTim8pMRjkey7ONuk502MbWoetgMbvQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Cc: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
2011/5/31 Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>

> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
>
>
> On 30/05/2011 02:54, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:
>
>> Hello Richard,
>>
>> Just a few comments:
>>
>> Background
>>
>> "People who create web forms, databases, or ontologies in
>> English-speaking countries are often unaware how different people’s
>> names can be in other countries."
>> Why is this specific to English-speaking countries? It can easily happen
>> in any country. In some places, people may be aware of two or three
>> (rather than just one) convention, but they'll still just miss most of
>> the others.
>>
>
> Thanks. Missed that. Was text from the original blog post, where i did call
> out English-speaking developers in particular.
>
>
>
>
>> "Don't forget to allow people to use hyphens, apostrophes, etc. in
>> names. Don't require names to be entered in upper case - this can be
>> difficult on a mobile device.": These two advices don't seem to be
>> related, better to take them apart. Re. upper case, why would anybody
>> want to force that? What exactly does it mean: All upper case, or just
>> partially upper case? All upper case is a bad idea because casing is
>> often part of the name.
>>
>
> Both of these are based on comments Timbl made to me this year while we
> were travelling.  I added 'all' before 'upper case'.
>
>
> > Also, you should probably say something about
>
>> prefixes and suffixes (de,... in French, von in German, jr. in the
>> US,...).
>>
>
> I added "Allow the user to enter a name with spaces, eg. to support
> prefixes and suffixes such as de in French, von in German, and Jnr. in
> American names.".
>
>
>
>> "ask the user to submit their name": to avoid gender complications
>> without being ungrammatical, why not "ask the users to submit their names"
>>
>
> It is grammatical English in the version that I speak.
>
>
>
>> "Name (in your alphabet)" doesn't work for scripts that are not alphabets.
>>
>
> True in a strict sense. Can you think of a better way to put it for the
> general user?
>
>
>
>> "Herr Doktor Profesor Schmidt" would sound weird, "Herr Professor Doktor
>> Schmidt" is correct.
>>
>
> Fixed. Thanks.
>

Often these are also abbreviated, e.g. "Herr Prof. Dr. Schmidt".

Best,

Felix


>
> Cheers,
> RI
>
>
>
>> Regards, Martin.
>>
>> On 2011/05/29 19:54, Richard Ishida wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> A while back we agreed in a telecon that it would be a good idea to
>>> convert my blog post on personal names to a w3c article. In my free time
>>> this weekend I have produced a first draft (that extends the blog
>>> post) at
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-personal-names
>>>
>>> Please take a look at it with a view to whether we should send for wide
>>> review at this point.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> RI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: Addison, can we agenda+ this for the next meeting?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Richard Ishida
> Internationalization Activity Lead
> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>
> http://www.w3.org/International/
> http://rishida.net/
>
>
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