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Re: ISSUE-88: content-language-multiple - Chairs Solicit Proposals

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:27:56 +0100
To: Mark Davis ☕ <mark@macchiato.com>
Cc: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, public-html@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org
Message-ID: <20091126202756258786.e7d3d2a4@xn--mlform-iua.no>
I think that we discuss a dual use of the meta element - http audience 
language and document language. For the HTTP use, then, the meta 
element announces the audience language - or languages. From the HTTP 
angle, multiple langauge inside the meta element do not equal to 
lang="" in any way. But since the meta may also be used to set the 
language of the document, if the lang attribute is lacking or wrongly 
set in the <html> element - or consciously do so, then - for that 
purpose - if you place multiple languages inside the meta element, then 
it is equal to setting multiple languages inside the lang attribute. 

That's my interpretation. 

Further more, this means that those that think it is of value to set 
multiple languages will do so (and probably simultaneously set the 
document language attribute correctly for the document). 

Leif

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:55:13 -0800, Mark Davis ☕ wrote:
> I think it would be most useful to allow an ordered list of languages about
> everywhere that they can be specified. In that context, I didn't understand
> the following from the cited mail.
> 
>> [4] Establish the rule that multiple values in the place that has
> precedence equates to lang="".
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:14, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> wrote:
> 
>> [resending with i18n in copy]
>> 
>> The i18n WG has made a proposal for how to handle this issue at
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/1086.html We
>> discussed this with Hixie during our WG meeting at TPAC, and he supported
>> the approach.
>> 
>> Please tell us what we need to do to take this further.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> RI
>> 
>> ============
>> Richard Ishida
>> Internationalization Lead
>> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/International/

>> http://rishida.net/

>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-request@w3.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Paul Cotton
>>> Sent: 19 November 2009 17:55
>>> To: public-html@w3.org
>>> Subject: ISSUE-88: content-language-multiple - Chairs Solicit Proposals
>>> 
>>>> ISSUE-88 (content-language-multiple) Should meta/@content allow a list
>> of
>>> languages instead of just a single language?
>>> 
>>> This is a very recent issue but the only concrete proposal we have at
>> this
>>> point is in the draft.  At this time the chairs would like to solicit
>> volunteers to
>>> write Change Proposals for this issue.
>>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88

>>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html#escalation

>>> 
>>> If no Change Proposals are written by the WG meeting on December 17, this
>>> issue will be closed without prejudice.
>>> 
>>> /paulc
>>> 
>>> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>>> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>>> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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