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Re: HTML5 Issue 11 (encoding detection): I18N WG response...

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:57:43 +0000 (UTC)
To: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Cc: Andrew Cunningham <andrewc@vicnet.net.au>, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, "Phillips, Addison" <addison@amazon.com>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0910120555540.3716@hixie.dreamhostps.com>
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:
> 
> My understanding, from what I learned from Ian, is that HTML5 tries to 
> make it easier to write a browser, without doing reverse-engineering. 
> But the problem with the current "western demographic" wording is that 
> browser implementers will have to re-engineer that term. As Leif 
> explains in quite some detail, the definition is indeed quite circular: 
> iso-8859-1 was designed for the iron curtain period Western Europe (with 
> some limitations), and windows-1252 follows that that. But the term 
> "Western" has many meanings, and is used much more differenciated these 
> days, and languages completely unrelated to Western Europe (Kurdish, 
> Swahili) use iso-8859-1 just because they fit in (and quite some more 
> languages for windows-1252).

I agree that we shouldn't mention Europe (and we don't), but I'm not sure 
what term would be better than "Western". It seems to be a pretty good fit 
based on Wikipedia's map:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

Certainly not perfect, but I'm not sure what would be better without going 
into extreme detail and listing specific countries.

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