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RE: New tutorial under way: Creating SVG Tiny Pages in Arabic & Hebrew

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:00:29 -0000
To: "'Najib Tounsi'" <ntounsi@emi.ac.ma>
Cc: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <011401c94355$d62240e0$8266c2a0$@org>

Hi Najib,

Thanks for these comments.  I addressed them all in the latest version.

Rather than change the Persian example, I changed the title (and added an Urdu example for good measure).

Cheers,
RI

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Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

http://www.w3.org/International/
http://rishida.net/



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Najib Tounsi [mailto:ntounsi@emi.ac.ma]
> Sent: 08 November 2008 16:42
> To: Richard Ishida
> Cc: 'Chris Lilley'; 'Doug Schepers'; public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: Re: New tutorial under way: Creating SVG Tiny Pages in Arabic & Hebrew
> 
> Some few remarks:
> 
> 1) "The Basics" paragraph:
> (http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/bidi-svg/#Slide0040)
> before the example: "This can be illustrated by the example below."
> Perhaps you should specify that the example is in Persian (Faressi). The
> title of the article talk about Arabic & Hebrew.
> 
> 2) "Language tagging" paragraph bellow:
> The reference "Specifying the language of content"
> should be
> http://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-html-tech-lang/#ri20030112.213801634
> rather than
> http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-
> lang.html#ri20030112.213801634
> 
> 3) "Direction and text-anchor" paragraph:
> (http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/bidi-svg/#Slide0180)
> The first example (Text-anchor in different directional contexts.)
> The reference graphic is not the correct one.
> 
> 
> Regards, Najib
> 
> 
> Richard Ishida wrote:
> > Chaps,
> >
> > I figured that while the information was still fresh in my brain after doing all the
> tests, I should write a tutorial on how to use the bidi features of SVG Tiny.
> >
> > Thought I'd let you know that I'm doing so.  You can find the text so far at
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/bidi-svg/
> >
> > I'm building it off a similar tutorial for XHTML, and I'm about half way through at
> the moment.
> >
> > I hope my SVG examples are ok. I'm no expert.
> >
> > hth
> > RI
> >
> >
> > PS: Chris, I did think about and look again at what we discussed on the phone wrt
> first character determining direction and need for unicode-bidi on svg tag, and I
> believe I was right. I've written the tutorial on that basis.  Unicode-bidi embed is
> only needed for tspans, although unicode-bidi override can be used effectively on
> text or textArea elements, I believe.  This is how CSS works, too.  (Elika clarified
> some of these things in her discussions with Doug based on her experience
> writing the CSS stuff.)   See for example, in the SVG Tiny text "For other cases,
> such as when using right-to-left languages, it may be sufficient to add the
> 'direction'  property to the rootmost 'svg' element, and allow that direction to
> inherit to all text elements, as in the following example..." (no mention of
> unicode-bidi, on purpose) and "For the 'direction' property to have any effect on
> an element that does not by itself establish a new text chunk (such as the 'tspan'
> element in SVG 1.2 Tiny), the 'unicode-bidi' property's value must be embed or
> bidi-override." (again referring specifically to inline elements rather than block
> elements).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ============
> > Richard Ishida
> > Internationalization Lead
> > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/International/
> > http://rishida.net/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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