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RE: New tutorial under way: Creating SVG Tiny Pages in Arabic & Hebrew

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:58:33 -0000
To: "'Martin Duerst'" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, "'Chris Lilley'" <chris@w3.org>, "'Doug Schepers'" <schepers@w3.org>, <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <011301c94355$91bccb00$b5366100$@org>

Hi Martin, 

Thanks for the suggestion.  In fact, I messed up here.  I do have a
bidi-svg-tiny directory on my hard drive, but (probably because I was too
tired) it ended up as bidi-svg on the server.  I may change the directory
name, if I can figure out how to do that.

RI

============
Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

http://www.w3.org/International/
http://rishida.net/



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Duerst [mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp]
> Sent: 10 November 2008 01:13
> To: Richard Ishida; 'Chris Lilley'; 'Doug Schepers';
public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: Re: New tutorial under way: Creating SVG Tiny Pages in Arabic &
Hebrew
> 
> Hello Richard,
> 
> The title includes "Tiny", but the address doesn't.
> Wouldn't it be better to have a tutorial for SVG, and
> explain Tiny-specific stuff where necessary, or
> alternatively to use the address
> http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/bidi-svg-tiny/ ?
> 
> Regards,   Martin.
> 
> At 08:06 08/11/08, Richard Ishida wrote:
> >
> >Chaps,
> >
> >I figured that while the information was still fresh in my brain after
> >doing all the tests, I should write a tutorial on how to use the bidi
> >features of SVG Tiny.
> >
> >Thought I'd let you know that I'm doing so.  You can find the text so far
at
> >
> >http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/bidi-svg/
> >
> >I'm building it off a similar tutorial for XHTML, and I'm about half way
> >through at the moment.
> >
> >I hope my SVG examples are ok. I'm no expert.
> >
> >hth
> >RI
> >
> >
> >PS: Chris, I did think about and look again at what we discussed on the
> >phone wrt first character determining direction and need for unicode-bidi
> >on svg tag, and I believe I was right. I've written the tutorial on that
> >basis.  Unicode-bidi embed is only needed for tspans, although
unicode-bidi
> >override can be used effectively on text or textArea elements, I believe.
> >This is how CSS works, too.  (Elika clarified some of these things in her
> >discussions with Doug based on her experience writing the CSS stuff.)
See
> >for example, in the SVG Tiny text "For other cases, such as when using
> >right-to-left languages, it may be sufficient to add the 'direction'
> >property to the rootmost 'svg' element, and allow that direction to
inherit
> >to all text elements, as in the following example..." (no mention of
> >unicode-bidi, on purpose) and "For the 'direction' property to have any
> >effect on an element that does not by itself establish a new text chunk
> >(such as the 'tspan' element in SVG 1.2 Tiny), the 'unicode-bidi'
> >property's value must be embed or bidi-override." (again referring
> >specifically to inline elements rather than block elements).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >============
> >Richard Ishida
> >Internationalization Lead
> >W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
> >
> >http://www.w3.org/International/
> >http://rishida.net/
> 
> 
> #-#-#  Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University
> #-#-#  http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp       mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp
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