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i18n Core telecon minutes 2008-01-30

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:58:33 -0000
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http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html



                     Internationalization Core WG

30 Jan 2008

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Michael_Monaghan, Richard, David, Andrew, Felix, Addison

   Regrets
   Chair
          Addison Philips

   Scribe
          aphillip

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Info share
         2. [5]What is encoding article
         3. [6]BCP 47 and XML Schema
         4. [7]Canonical XML to PR
         5. [8]Agenda for next time
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Action Items

   <andrewc_>
   [10]http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/index.php?title=Converting

     [10] http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/index.php?title=Converting

   <r12a> ACTION: Andrew to move his page qa-utf8-upgrade back to wiki
   using 'what is encoding' as a template DONE [recorded in
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action01]

   <r12a> ACTION: Richard create notes on how to use the wiki template
   [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action02]

   <r12a> ] ACTION: Felix: send comment on "its successor" formulation
   to XML WG DONE

   <r12a> ACTION: Felix: send comment on "its successor" formulation to
   XML WG DONE [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action03]

   <r12a> ACTION: Richard: to send UAX#29 comments link to list to be
   forwarded Friday pending no objections DONE [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action04]

   <r12a> ACTION: Richard: to send UAX#29 comments link to list to be
   forwarded Friday pending no objections [DONE] [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action05]

Info share

   <r12a> Felix: ITS best practices document almost ready to publish

   <r12a> ... and plans to close the WG and start an ITS-focused
   Interest Group

   <r12a>
   [16]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
   ml

     [16] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html

   <DavidClarke> I have a little info share. IE8 is intending to be W3
   standards compliant, with a sting in the tail though.

   <DavidClarke>
   [17]http://www.dragonthoughts.com/blog/2008/01/29/microsoft-finally-
   work-for-standards-in-ie-8/

     [17] http://www.dragonthoughts.com/blog/2008/01/29/microsoft-finally-work-for-standards-in-ie-8/

What is encoding article

   <r12a>
   [18]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-what-is-encoding.en
   .php

     [18] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-what-is-encoding.en.php

   <fsasaki> fine by me

   <DavidClarke> I'm happy with it being published

   <r12a> agreed to publish

   <r12a> ACTION: Richard to publish Character encoding for Beginners
   article [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action06]

BCP 47 and XML Schema

   <fsasaki> [20]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4850#c3

     [20] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4850#c3

   <DavidClarke> I agree

   <r12a> ACTION: Felix to contact XML Schema to ask them not to close
   language validation issue before we've seen the wording [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action07]

Canonical XML to PR

   two things that might be a problem

   1. removed NFC requirement for C14N XML output

   2. reference 3986 instead of 3987 and use the term uri where we
   think they should mean iri

   andrew: why was normalization removed:

   addison: xml processors not really supporting for data; data model
   is a separate matter
   ... C14N is consistent with late normalization (current state of
   charmodnorm), but not consistent with our historical position

   andrew: not a lot of data sets extant that are affected (such as
   Vietnamese)

   felix: what did you propose saying?

   addison: specifically approve of transition, calling out the issues
   and our positions on them

   <fsasaki> felix: understanding the issues as "C14N 1.1. is
   consistent with charmod direction not to require early normalization
   anymore. We are pleased to see xpath model"

   addison: they *say* URI a lot and what we want are IRIs ... or at
   least LEIRIs

   richard: need to troll the archives on that; should probably say
   something about it

   addison: add normative reference to 3987 and reference IRI or LEIRI

   felix: needs a clarification

   richard: at least a note?

   <scribe> ACTION: Addison: contact C14N XML about IRI issue and seek
   resolution [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action08]

   addison: what about normalization?

   richard: should put a note in recommending

   <scribe> ACTION: Addison: check C14N XML 1.1 for health warning on
   normalization and comment appropriately if there is not one
   [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action09]

Agenda for next time

   felix: agenda+ styling in HTML5 and dir on public list thread: needs
   follow up

   put CSS and HTML5 first next time

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Addison: check C14N XML 1.1 for health warning on
   normalization and comment appropriately if there is not one
   [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action09]
   [NEW] ACTION: Addison: contact C14N XML about IRI issue and seek
   resolution [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action08]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to contact XML Schema to ask them not to close
   language validation issue before we've seen the wording [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action07]
   [NEW] ACTION: Richard create notes on how to use the wiki template
   [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Richard to publish Character encoding for Beginners
   article [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action06]

   [DONE] ACTION: Andrew to move his page qa-utf8-upgrade back to wiki
   using 'what is encoding' as a template [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action01]
   [DONE] ACTION: Felix: send comment on "its successor" formulation to
   XML WG [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action03]
   [DONE] ACTION: Richard: to send UAX#29 comments link to list to be
   forwarded Friday pending no objections [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action04]
   [DONE] ACTION: Richard: to send UAX#29 comments link to list to be
   forwarded Friday pending no objections [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html#action05]

   [End of minutes]

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Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
 
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://rishida.net/blog/
http://rishida.net/

 
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