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RE: Tweaks to quicktips cards

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:22:06 -0000
To: 'François Yergeau' <francois@yergeau.com>
Cc: "'GEO'" <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>, <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <024e01c755dc$d0814f90$6401a8c0@rishida>

> From: François Yergeau [mailto:francois@yergeau.com] 
> Sent: 20 February 2007 14:03
> To: Richard Ishida
> Cc: 'GEO'; public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Tweaks to quicktips cards
> 
> Richard Ishida a écrit :
...
> > [2]
> > Escapes. Only use escapes (e.g. &#xA0; &#160; or &nbsp;) in 
> specific circumstances.
> > Escapes. Use characters rather than escapes (e.g. 
> &amp;#xA0; &amp;#160; or &amp;nbsp;) whenever you can.
> 
> I think the choice of this example is poor.  NBSP is in fact 
> a case where using an escape makes sense, so that one can 
> distinguish normal from non-breaking spaces while editing.  
> Better use an accented latin letter, which is in fact where 
> the malady of abusing escapes is prevalent.  Nobody in his 
> right mind would think of escaping every character in a 
> Japanese/Russian/Arabic/Devanagari page, but many people do 
> in fact escape accented latin letters in the mistaken belief 
> that this is required.

You're right. We originally chose nbsp with the same reasoning in mind, but now we flipped the sense of the sentence.  I'll use aacute.


> 
> 
> > [3]
> > Text authoring. Use simple, concise text. Do not compose 
> sentences from multiple strings using scripting.
> > Text authoring. Use simple, concise text. Use care when 
> composing sentences from multiple strings.
> 
> Disagree.  "Do not compose" is better than "Use care", as 
> this is really a bad practice.  The Details page can perhaps 
> give some rope to people to hang themselves, but the short 
> message should remain clear: don't.

Well, not always evil.  It depends on what you're doing.  See http://www.w3.org/International/articles/composite-messages/

> 
> 
> > [4]
> > Navigation. On each page include clearly visible navigation 
> to localized pages or sites. Use the target language.
> > Navigation. On each page include clearly visible navigation 
> to localized pages or sites, using the target language.
> > 
> > [5]
> > Check your work. Validate! Use techniques, tutorials, and 
> articles at 
> > http://www.w3.org/International/ Check your work. Validate! 
> Use best 
> > practises, tutorials, and articles at 
> http://www.w3.org/International/
> 
> "practises" or "practices"?  Is this an "en-GB" vs "en-US" thing?

Yes.  A long-standing problem of mine (dating back way before being at w3c, Martin).  But I've made progress.  Now, if I notice it, at least I know which one it should be ;-)


> 
> 
> --
> François
> 

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