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RE: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: TTS vs. ASR in 4.5

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:15:58 +0100
To: "'Baggia Paolo'" <paolo.baggia@loquendo.com>, <www-voice@w3.org>
Cc: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <019601c68fc5$719a3a60$6501a8c0@w3cishida>
Hi Paolo,
 
Please see the comments at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006AprJun/0118.html.
 
Thanks,
RI


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From: Baggia Paolo [mailto:paolo.baggia@loquendo.com] 
Sent: 26 May 2006 15:20
To: www-voice@w3.org
Cc: Baggia Paolo; Richard Ishida
Subject: Re: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: TTS vs. ASR in 4.5



Issue R103-26

Proposed Classification: Clarification / Typo / Editorial 

Resolution: Reject 

The following text appears in Section 4.5 [1]: 

"In order to remove the need for duplication of pronunciation information to cope with the above variations, the <lexeme> element may contain more than one <grapheme> element to define the base orthography and any variants which should share the pronunciations." 

We believe that there is general utility, beyond text-to-speech, for supporting multiple graphemes. To illustrate one such case, the following lexicon might be used for US English: 

	<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

	<lexicon version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/01/pronunciation-lexicon"

	      alphabet="ipa" xml:lang="en-US">

	    

	    <lexeme> 

	      <grapheme>judgment<\grapheme> 

	      <grapheme>judgement<\grapheme> 

	      <phoneme>ˈʤʌʤ.mənt<\phoneme> 

	    <\lexeme> 

	    <lexeme> 

	      <grapheme>fiancé<\grapheme> 

	      <grapheme>fiance<\grapheme> 

	      <phoneme>fiˈɑ̃ːn.seɪ<\phoneme> 

	      <phoneme>ˌfiː.ɑːnˈseɪ<\phoneme> 

	    <\lexeme> 

	</lexicon>

In text-to-speech documents, as has been noted, 

	<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

	<speak version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/10/synthesis"

	  xml:lang="en-US">

	    

	    <lexicon uri="http://www.example.com/lexicon_defined_above.xml"/> 

	    

	    <p> In the judgement of my fiancé, Las Vegas is the best place for a honeymoon.

	      I replied that I preferred Venice and didn't think the Venetian casino was an

	      acceptable compromise.<\p> 

	</speak>

but also in speech recognition grammars, 

	<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

	<grammar version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/06/grammar" 

	  xml:lang="en-US" root="movies">

	    

	    <lexicon uri="http://www.example.com/lexicon_defined_above.xml"/> 

	    

	    <rule id="movies" scope="public"> 

	      <one-of> 

	        <item>Terminator 2: Judgment Day<\item> 

	        <item>My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance<\item> 

	        <item>Pluto's Judgement Day<\item> 

	      <\one-of> 

	    <\rule> 

	</grammar>

We feel that this is used both for TTS and ASR therefore we reject your proposal to add only "text-to-speech".

Please indicate whether you are satisfied with the VBWG's resolution, whether you think there has been a misunderstanding, or whether you wish to register an objection. 

[1]  <http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/#S4.5 

Paolo Baggia, editor PLS spec.

P.S. If you have trouble to see the IPA codes, please ask me. I’ll upload a HTML

document and send you the URI.

From: < <mailto:ishida@w3.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BPLS1.0%5D%20i18n%20comment%3A%20TTS%20vs.%20ASR%20in%204.5&In-Reply-To=%253C20060321175010.01B574F400%40homer.w3.org%253E&References=%253C20060321175010.01B574F400%40homer.w3.org%253E> ishida@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:50:11 +0000
To:  <mailto:www-voice@w3.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BPLS1.0%5D%20i18n%20comment%3A%20TTS%20vs.%20ASR%20in%204.5&In-Reply-To=%253C20060321175010.01B574F400%40homer.w3.org%253E&References=%253C20060321175010.01B574F400%40homer.w3.org%253E> www-voice@w3.org,  <mailto:public-i18n-core@w3.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BPLS1.0%5D%20i18n%20comment%3A%20TTS%20vs.%20ASR%20in%204.5&In-Reply-To=%253C20060321175010.01B574F400%40homer.w3.org%253E&References=%253C20060321175010.01B574F400%40homer.w3.org%253E> public-i18n-core@w3.org
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	Comment from the i18n review of:

	 <http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/

	Comment 26

	At  <http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0603-pls10/> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0603-pls10/

	Editorial/substantive: E

	Owner: RI

	Location in reviewed document:

	4.5, 3rd para

	Comment: 

	"In order to remove the need for duplication of pronunciation information to cope with the above variations, the<lexeme> element may"


	Here is an example of where it might be good to distinguish between TTS and ASR. You could say: "In order to remove the need for duplication of pronunciation information to cope with the above variations during text-to-speech, the <lexeme> element may contain"



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