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RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning

From: Ashok Malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:42:46 -0700
To: Addison Phillips <addison.phillips@quest.com>, Jim Melton <jim.melton@acm.org>
CC: Paul Cotton <pcotton@microsoft.com>, w3c-xsl-query@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org
Message-ID: <20050901144246910.00000003148@amalhotr-pc>

I think a W3C note (now called member submission?) is the right way to surface
this material.  I will suggest a few changes in wording and more specific
description of what XML Schema and XML Query provide.  Watch your mail!

All the best, Ashok
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Addison Phillips
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:12 AM
> To: Jim Melton
> Cc: Paul Cotton; ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; 
> w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
> 
> 
> Thanks, Jim. If you happen to think of better terms, we would 
> be *very* happy to have suggestions. Note that the document 
> is in the Wiki and can be modified.
> 
> I think that Note would be an appropriate format for this 
> information. Perhaps work on time zones would be appropriate 
> in some other formats (like a REC) in the future, but this isn't it.
> 
> A non-normative reference to it would be fine. Perhaps, if I 
> may be so bold:
> 
> --
> Note Well: Users and implementers handling time-related data 
> should take the considerations in [[href:Note]] into account 
> even if time zone sensitive data is rarely used. Sooner or 
> later some data will be affected by the issues described in 
> that document.
> --
> 
> The I18N Core WG will work to publish this ASAP, once we are 
> all in agreement on the course of action.
> 
> Addison
> 
> Addison P. Phillips
> Globalization Architect, Quest Software
> Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group
> 
> Internationalization is not a feature.
> It is an architecture. 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Melton [mailto:jim.melton@acm.org]
> > Sent: 2005?9?1? 10:03
> > To: Addison Phillips
> > Cc: Paul Cotton; ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; 
> > public- i18n-core@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
> > 
> > Addison,
> > 
> > I am very pleased with your draft text.  It is one of the 
> better, more 
> > concise, and clearer discussions of this rather annoying 
> problem that 
> > I've encountered.  I am not particularly delighted with the three 
> > names you've chosen, but I don't currently have a better 
> alternative to offer.
> > 
> > You say that you wish to publish the document as a Note and that we 
> > would then reference it in our document[s].  I assume that our 
> > reference would be non-normative, because the text of a Note is not 
> > itself normative in any sense.  Right?  If my assumption is 
> correct, 
> > then I would have no objections to following your suggested 
> action.  
> > Among the advantages is the fact that a Note can be 
> published pretty 
> > quickly so that it is available no later than our documents 
> going to 
> > CR status, right?
> > 
> > If I find little quibbles that I'd like changed, what is the best 
> > process for making that happen?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> >     Jim
> > 
> > 
> > At 9/1/2005 09:48 AM, Addison Phillips wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi Paul,
> > >
> > >I had an action item to follow up this week with Ashok. I 
> believe we 
> > >are done with our editing homework. The question is what form the 
> > >health warning should take in your document. Our text is 
> slightly long.
> > >
> > >We want to suggest that we publish our document as a Note and that 
> > >you include a reference to it in your document.
> > >
> > >The document itself is currently located in the Wiki:
> > >
> > >http://esw.w3.org/topic/i18nFAQTimeZone#preview
> > >
> > >Please let us know if you have particular concerns with 
> the content 
> > >or if you prefer a different course of action for 
> including material 
> > >from it in yours.
> > >
> > >Addison
> > >
> > >Addison P. Phillips
> > >Globalization Architect, Quest Software Chair, W3C 
> > >Internationalization Core Working Group
> > >
> > >Internationalization is not a feature.
> > >It is an architecture.
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Paul Cotton [mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com]
> > > > Sent: 2005?8?31? 20:55
> > > > To: ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; Addison Phillips
> > > > Cc: w3c-xsl-query@w3.org
> > > > Subject: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
> > > >
> > > > > ACTION A-Redmond05-01 Ashok will work with Addison to develop 
> > > > > text for the timezone health warning.  ETA end of August.
> > > >
> > > > Is the text for the health warning ready?  If it is can 
> one of you 
> > > > please reply to this message with the proposed text or 
> a pointer to it?
> > > >
> > > > /paulc
> > > >
> > > > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> > > > 17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3
> > > > Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 
> > > > mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > 
> > 
> ==============================================================
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> > Jim Melton --- Editor of ISO/IEC 9075-* (SQL)     Phone: 
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